• village604@adultswim.fan
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    9 days ago

    Bro, this article is about research that was done.

    You can’t say we need more research then ignore research that doesn’t conform to your held beliefs.

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      8 days ago

      Bro they sent you to jail for 25 years for cannabis use in 1980. Their study is based or biased studies. There is no unbiased study of cannabis that exists under prohibition. Broooo

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      9 days ago

      There’s no point in research that proves what people don’t want to hear. This is why Trump shut down the NIH.

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        8 days ago

        So they studied a cannabis study from 1980 when cannabis was wildly illegal across the nation, and we were in the height of a war on drugs. We were supposed to trust that that data is valid enough to be included in a modern study?

        Sir, did you even complete your high school education? I didn’t have to read more than a page of that study because the foundation of it is completely flawed.

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          8 days ago

          It’s funny that you’re criticizing someone else’s intelligence while being confidently incorrect about the data used for the meta analysis.

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            8 days ago

            How far has the clinical definition of depression drifted since 1980? You’re not even comparing the same disease at that time scale. It’s like no one even thought about what data to use in their data analysis. I think the stigma around mental health in 1985 was only rivaled by the stigma of drug use. What are we really studying here boiz?

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            8 days ago

            Now im in the meat of it. They’re using studies with 35 participants. Seems super thorough. Great number makes the 200 participant study seem massive in comparison. They can barely draw a a conclusion due to the sampling size. lmaooo meta data analysis with bad data. Like I said I didn’t need to read this trash. but here I am. 23% of US adults use cannabis I’m sure they can run a real study if they wanted to learn something.

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            8 days ago

            You’re going to have to point out where I was incorrect, they claim they used a model to exclude bias, but also included studies from the period of time. Is there something I need to look at directly. It reads just like any other cannabis study out there.

            Here’s how we debate things when we can rub to brain cells together. From the article.

            “There was insufficient data for ADHD, bipolar disorder, obsessive-compulsive disorder, and tobacco use disorder. Cannabinoids were associated with a greater risk of all-cause adverse events compared with placebo, but no higher odds of serious adverse events or study withdrawal. This Article systematically evaluates the efficacy and safety of cannabinoids for some of the most common indications that they are used to treat, providing clarity during a time of expanding clinical use. Sleep issues, post-traumatic stress disorder, and depression are some of the leading indications that cannabinoids are used to treat, yet there were only four randomised controlled trials for sleep issues, three for post-traumatic stress disorder, and none for depression that examined cannabinoid efficacy.”

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        8 days ago

        Choosing to use corrupt data, corrupts the whole study. I dunno what’s so hard to understand it’s just really fucking simple. This isn’t some anti-vaccination conspiracy. There was a drug war. Billions of dollars a year eradicating cannabis and incarcerating people. We’re gonna use that government sponsored data in our modern studies???

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      8 days ago

      What would make data from 1980 relevant compared to data from a current state who’s not under prohibition? Do you think normal people were jumping to take part in a government approved cannabis study when it could have them sent to jail for 25 years ??? Cmon man think about the data sets we’re using here.

      It seems like you’re all really happy when some loosely slapped together science confirms what you think so I can see why that is the common criticism around here.

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        8 days ago

        Did you even read the abstract of the paper? 1980 was the beginning of their search range, not the only data used.

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          "There was insufficient data for ADHD, bipolar disorder, obsessive-compulsive disorder, and tobacco use disorder. Cannabinoids were associated with a greater risk of all-cause adverse events compared with placebo, but no higher odds of serious adverse events or study withdrawal. This Article systematically evaluates the efficacy and safety of cannabinoids for some of the most common indications that they are used to treat, providing clarity during a time of expanding clinical use. Sleep issues, post-traumatic stress disorder, and depression are some of the leading indications that cannabinoids are used to treat, yet there were only four randomised controlled trials for sleep issues, three for post-traumatic stress disorder, and none for depression that examined cannabinoid efficacy."

          DID YOU??? CAN YOU THINK AND BREATH AT THE SAME TIME? Said the same thing I did. Not enough evidence.

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          8 days ago

          it said we did a meta analysis and it was in conclusive due to lack of data. They hug tight onto a 2016 study that confirmed what they wanted to say. wonderful abstract paper, that patted themselves on the back and drew some conclusions almost out of thin air. I learned soooooo much.