Praise the sun!
Favorite little snippet from another take:
In 2019, the provincial government canvassed British Columbians through an online consultation and found that 93 per cent supported ending the time changes that have been in place since 1918. Much of Canada still follows the routine that largely synchronizes with the United States, so the B.C. government decided after the 2019 poll to wait until key trading partners California, Oregon and Washington State agreed to change as well.
This week, Mr. Eby said the provincial government is not prepared to wait any longer and that B.C. will be on Pacific time permanently as of November.
“We are done waiting. British Columbia is going to change our clocks,” Mr. Eby told reporters, adding that he hopes the decision will help nudge U.S. Congress to move forward on adopting a similar change.
Do not wait up for us. Gonna take some time to figure out our problems.
Additionally: Argentina, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Brazil, Cook Islands, Falkland Islands, Fiji, Georgia, Hong Kong, Iceland, Iran, Iraq, Jamaica, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Macau, Mongolia, Namibia, Paraguay, Russia, Samoa, Sudan, Syria, Turkey, Uruguay, Vanuatu, and most of Mexico have all abolished time changes, and Ukraine in 2024 switched to standard time.
If only there was a standard time to stay with. What did the experts say?
B.C. officially ends time
changes and adopts single time zone
Bit overboard but ok
We did it several years ago in all of Mexico. It’s just better.
Huzzah! I hope more follow suit.
Nice! I’m a programmer, I hate daylight saving time with a passion. Feels like half of all bugs in IT somehow trace to it. 😑
You and me both. It’s especially fun when you work in multiple timezones and some also have standard or daylight time on top of that. Really adds a layer to that shit sandwich of 12 hour time with 12am/pm confusion too
What sorts of issues? It’s been common for decades to store time in UTC, and render local time on the client side.
So as s simple example from the system I work with:
Customers can set rolling validities for alerts, e.g., Monday 8-10.
If a customer from a place which currently has DST puts in 8-10 say, CEST, in their browser (6-8 UTC) then they intuitively expect this to still be 8-10 their local time (7-9 UTC) when later winter time rolls around.
But, all data checked for alerts comes in in UTC and different users editing these validities are from different countries, timezones and summer time preferences.
Gets funky really quickly. Especially because the evaluation has to account for the DST shift essentially on a per-recipient DST when configured vs DST when evaluated basis. (This is genuinely a simple example, it gets worse 😁)
Not the person you responded to , but the “render local time on the client side” is the tricky part, especially when the time is in the past or future relative to current. Theres a hundred edge cases to consider and many of them very non-obvious to our feeble linear time oriented mortal minds.
you can’t do permanent daylight it would get to hot, you need some night
Install some solar panels!
wont somebody think of the children??!
Yay! Daylight stops at 10-11pm in the summer and daylight starts at 9am in the winter.
Can ON adopt this too?
If only. Ontario said they would only do it if all their neighbours said they would do it too. So all our neighbours said they would do it if their neighbours do it. And their neighbours said “sure! If all of our neighbours will join us”.
We can only hope BC being willing can trickle back eastwards across everyone until we are compelled.
Does this mean the sun won’t start to rise until ~9am in Dec? 💀
Fwiw, you can’t see the sunrise from a windowless cubicle anyways. You now get a bit more daylight after work!
So much fun for children walking to school in pitch dark.
Bring that standard time or leave it alone. Summer time in winter will be a pain.
Agreed. Apparently we’re the only morning people in this thread 😅
I’m not a morning person. But I like the roads to be less frozen when I go to work. I like it to be brighter so there are less accidents. And I like kids being able to walk to school with some sunlight in winter.
Fair enough (and I still agree!)
I just don’t understand why we have to change clocks instead of all just agreeing to get up an hour earlier.
I mean, it’s really not like most people clock in at 08:00 sharp at the factory gate anymore. Where’s the problem if school starts a half hour earlier in summer? If one colleague wants more daylight in winter, they should be able to just come in 1-2 hours early and leave early.
I voted for this in the EU referendum YEARS ago, and they just kinda were like “lol, no. Fuck you”. Really happy (part of) Canada got it’s shit together, but damn, I’m envious. Changing clocks gives me splitting headaches for 2 days every time.
Hopefully the rest of the west coast will follow.
Seconded
Thirded, summer time all the time!
At least they went forward rather than the status quo of ‘normal’ time
A lot of medical boards prefer permanent standard time.
Thanks that’s interesting!
Clearly sticking with one is medically better but I don’t see much debate about which one - there’s a few vague statements that standard time matches the inertia we have biologicaly but I’ve yet to see a considered argument looking deeper into it, unfortunately.
For those in distant latitudes it’s a big deal - and that seems to be where most of us live…
