ryujin470@fedia.io to Technology@beehaw.org · 17 days agoIs the Darwin kernel, used in macOS and iOS, really open source?message-squaremessage-square20linkfedilinkarrow-up130arrow-down11file-text
arrow-up129arrow-down1message-squareIs the Darwin kernel, used in macOS and iOS, really open source?ryujin470@fedia.io to Technology@beehaw.org · 17 days agomessage-square20linkfedilinkfile-text
minus-squarerumschlumpel@feddit.orglinkfedilinkarrow-up1arrow-down4·17 days agoQuite a few people seem to disagree.
minus-squareThe_Decryptor@aussie.zonelinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·17 days agoWho are these people who think drivers can’t be open source?
minus-squarerumschlumpel@feddit.orglinkfedilinkarrow-up1arrow-down1·17 days agoNo one said they can’t be. But in the real world, drivers for some classes of devices only come in closed-source. I’m using the GNU project’s/RMS’s definition of FOSS here.
minus-squareThe_Decryptor@aussie.zonelinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·17 days agoAre you talking about firmware?
minus-squarehobata@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up1·17 days agoWell, explain first what you mean by Linux.
minus-squarerumschlumpel@feddit.orglinkfedilinkarrow-up1arrow-down3·17 days agoSome important drivers are not FOSS, thus making the standard Linux kernel not FOSS if you use Stallman’s definition.
minus-squarecadekat@pawb.sociallinkfedilinkarrow-up3·17 days agoAre you talking firmware blobs, or actual drivers? If it’s the latter, do you have a link? I’m curious!
minus-squareAckPhttt@beehaw.orglinkfedilinkarrow-up2·17 days agoI think your vague wording is implying that the non-standard Linux kernel is not FOSS. But, you’ve been maximally non-specific.
Quite a few people seem to disagree.
Who are these people who think drivers can’t be open source?
No one said they can’t be. But in the real world, drivers for some classes of devices only come in closed-source. I’m using the GNU project’s/RMS’s definition of FOSS here.
Are you talking about firmware?
Well, explain first what you mean by Linux.
Specifically how?
Some important drivers are not FOSS, thus making the standard Linux kernel not FOSS if you use Stallman’s definition.
Are you talking firmware blobs, or actual drivers? If it’s the latter, do you have a link? I’m curious!
I think your vague wording is implying that the non-standard Linux kernel is not FOSS. But, you’ve been maximally non-specific.