Good ol out of context! I already had this talk so I’ll just skip the formalities. I AM Muslim and if switching one of my labels (man) to one of the others (Muslim) makes the content deletable the original comment should also be deletable.
Well you can’t just switch out labels like that, that is the whole point!
a) critizing “all men” means critizing men as a class. The dominant class in relation to the oppressed class. They’re not talking about you the individual, they’re talking about the class of men.
b) critizing “all muslims” is very much critizing every muslim as an individual. Muslims aren’t a societal class, but a huge group of people that have nothing in common other than them claiming to be part of the same religion.
The difference is that a class is in relation to another class, you can’t have “men” without “women”. You can’t have “employers” without “employees”. You can’t have “slavers” without “slaves”. You can very much have “muslims” without “christians”. One is talking about societal structure and dynamics, the other about a trait shared by a group of people. One talks about societies perception of the individual (You’ll get treated like a man if people around you think you are one) the other about an individuals self-understanding (You’re a muslim if you say are one).
That’s why one comment is fine and the other is very much deletable.
Good ol out of context! I already had this talk so I’ll just skip the formalities. I AM Muslim and if switching one of my labels (man) to one of the others (Muslim) makes the content deletable the original comment should also be deletable.
Well you can’t just switch out labels like that, that is the whole point!
a) critizing “all men” means critizing men as a class. The dominant class in relation to the oppressed class. They’re not talking about you the individual, they’re talking about the class of men.
b) critizing “all muslims” is very much critizing every muslim as an individual. Muslims aren’t a societal class, but a huge group of people that have nothing in common other than them claiming to be part of the same religion.
The difference is that a class is in relation to another class, you can’t have “men” without “women”. You can’t have “employers” without “employees”. You can’t have “slavers” without “slaves”. You can very much have “muslims” without “christians”. One is talking about societal structure and dynamics, the other about a trait shared by a group of people. One talks about societies perception of the individual (You’ll get treated like a man if people around you think you are one) the other about an individuals self-understanding (You’re a muslim if you say are one).
That’s why one comment is fine and the other is very much deletable.