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Ahmed@lemmy.zip to Asklemmy@lemmy.ml · 1 month ago

Can things exist without anyone being aware of their existence?

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Can things exist without anyone being aware of their existence?

Ahmed@lemmy.zip to Asklemmy@lemmy.ml · 1 month ago
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  • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    1 month ago

    Yes, they necessarily do.

  • Korhaka@sopuli.xyz
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    1 month ago

    At one point no one knew how gravity worked and yet the earth still orbited the sun

  • Random_Character_A@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    So, can something exist that is in no way quantium entangled with anything that comprises your experience of existence?

    If you subscribe to the multiworld principle, basically anything potentially viable can and will.

    Can something exist if you are not aware of it?

    Most of reality. Human experience is quite limited.

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    1 month ago

    This isn’t really an answer to your question, but I think it’s more in the spirit of it than some of the actual answers you’re getting;

    Does something exist just because you observed it?

  • Goblinmancer [any]@hexbear.net
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    1 month ago

    My cats

  • FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website
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    Have a read through this:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_a_tree_falls_in_a_forest_and_no_one_is_around_to_hear_it%2C_does_it_make_a_sound%3F

    • Ahmed@lemmy.zipOP
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      1 month ago

      I know this example, but I want to see what people think from their own point of view. Like,Do things exist independently of our awareness of them?

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        This morning I met a man I had never seen before. I was not aware of him. Are you asking me if I think he existed before I met him?

      • Victor@lemmy.world
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        Yes they do. Otherwise we would never discover anything. Unless one would mean that the people who have discovered everything that has ever been discovered were also the creators of those things. And that seems far-fetched.

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        1 month ago

        BUT IF YOU READ IT YOU WILL FIND OUT THAT PEOPLE ARE DIVIDED OVER THIS ISSUE. SO THERE IS NO CONCLUSIVE ANSWER.

  • daggermoon@piefed.world
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    1 month ago

    Things can and do.

  • Tomtits@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 month ago

    That’s solipsism

    • Ahmed@lemmy.zipOP
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      1 month ago

      Why do you think it’s solipsism? Can you explain your reasoning?

      • inlandempire@jlai.lu
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        I mean, they don’t have to think it’s related to Solipsism, by definition Solipsism id an answer to your question

      • BrundleFly2077@sh.itjust.works
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        Why are all your responses in bold, you mad lad?

  • gointhefridge@lemmy.zip
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    1 month ago

    Yes, my one man black metal project exists and no one knows about it. 🥺

    • ∟⊔⊤∦∣≶@lemmy.nz
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      One man black metal? Must be fuckin excellent!

    • potoooooooo 🥔@lemmy.world
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      I can’t believe it’s you! Your one-man black metal project changed my life!

  • benderbeerman@lemmy.world
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    Physical things exist, and will continue to exist. Energy is not created or destroyed, only converted.

    Abstract things may come and go. Thoughts and ideas, understandings, etc…

    Math and language are constructs we created to better understand and describe the world around us, and when the last human dies, so may all our amassed understandings.

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    People were dying en-masse because you had doctors not washing their hands when moving from autopsies to giving birth.

    No one was aware about the germs that are causing this. It still killed people.

    This is true for most of the early medicine/illneses/hygiene, this was just an example I remember. Especially in regards to germs and bacteries, the humanity wasn’t even close to getting it right.

    • Jerkface (any/all)@lemmy.ca
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      1 month ago

      Perhaps I just confabulated all that, and your comment. Perhaps in the process, I manifested the history therein described.

      • SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        1 month ago

        The human body needs water to survive. Perhaps you are different.

  • slazer2au@lemmy.world
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    Yep. There are many billions of people around the world who don’t know you exist yet you do. Although how sure are you that you exist?

    • AlmightyDoorman@kbin.earth
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      Well at least one person is aware they exist, so anyone does not qualify

      • Helix 🧬@feddit.org
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        1 month ago

        How do you know a rock isn’t aware of its existence?

  • sangeteria@lemmy.ml
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    1 month ago

    Girl, go read some Enlightenment philosophy, why’re you askin us 😭😭😭

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    Technically they exist.
    But do they exist for you if you don’t even think of them? Theological/ philosophycal views might say no.
    Tho you can still be affected by unkown therefore “non-existent” things.
    Nowadays I call “tap to pay” magic. I know the very basic things to go in there - but I couldn’t recreate it. Thos is kinda the same tone as your question.

  • RoddyStiggs@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Yes. You aren’t the main character of reality.

    • pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip
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      1 month ago

      Obviously they’re not, because I am.

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