Ground clearance is a big one.

So putting a lift kit on the Sonata would make it an SUV? Actually…Subaru did just that very thing! The Crosstrek is an Impreza (hatchback body) with a lift kit.

I think if people took “SUV” in this context to mean “traditional SUV” (i.e. to exclude crossovers) it would avoid a lot of the confusion.

but I’d probably say size and design (boxy-ish looks). Beyond that, categorization by the companies making and rating them is what I go by.

So styling and marketing?

Fwiw, the Sonata is actually longer and wider than the Forester, though the Forester is taller due to the wagon bodystyle and a higher suspension/larger tires: carsized.com is an interesting site

Well, I disagree with your argument about SUV classification so we will agree to disagree here.

That is certainly your prerogative; many people have chosen to group them together. But it does mean that the “sedan vs SUV” MPG comparison is obfuscated by a faulty premise.

I’m curious though, what in your mind makes a Forester an SUV rather than a wagon? Disregard any external labels that others have applied. How you would classify the vehicle.

The classification doesn’t determine what it actually is. It is an arbitrary label.

SUVs and crossovers are functionally different. I don’t really give a shit that someone decided to group them together and dont feel bound to perpetuating their error.

I’m not being hostile, I’m just pointing out that crossovers are more similar to cars rather than SUVs, which is something that is very relevant to the discussion of fuel economy.

TIL that these sensors transmitted via a wireless signal rather than being hardwired. I’ve never heard of them needing to be replaced due to dead batteries.

What is the MPG between those vehicles? How long will their respective tanks last?

The Forester is not an SUV, it is a crossover. It is basically a wagon with a higher-riding suspension. SUV =/= crossover, even if automobile marketing has convinced a large segment of the population otherwise.

I hate this timeline, but I do enjoy the small moments of absurdity when I can.

Egg is back on the menu!

Discrete generations aren’t even a real thing. The idea that 2 people born in consecutive years are in different generations is absurd. They have more in common than 2 people born at the opposite ends of a generation label.

If someone is on Xitter (or Reddit, or wherever) and using it, what means would you use to ask them to stop using it and suggest an alternative platform?

Yeah that’s the problem. I don’t use them, but a bunch of other people do. How do we get them to stop?

I’m rolling with it.

Is this any different than making a post on Reddit encouraging people to switch to Lemmy?

The only winning move is not to play.

Big reason why I chose not to reproduce and am encouraging others to similarly abstain. Billionaires can’t exist without the rest of us.

<insert Captain Phillips meme>

“Look at me, I’m the Axis now”

Kamala did say that Iran was America’s greatest adversary.

She also said that she wanted America to have the most lethal military. Not most powerful, most effective, or strongest. Specifically, “most lethal.”

I’m not going to say that Kamala would have done the same, but I can understand why someone might think that.

Stop using Facebook, ffs

Might as well use the Halo UNSC logo for this

https://gamesbeat.com/bbc-news-confuses-halo-space-command-with-un-security-council/

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