Tell the judge you are training a neural network… it just happens to also be you.

I never said I was unwilling to take an evening to vote

Then please don’t use speech to discourage action. There are still victories to be made there for working class people. Just because you won’t get everything doesn’t mean you should leave it all. Elections don’t happen often, so its not a big ask to take an evening to go vote. There is still the rest of the time for other forms of organizing. Please engage with the points I am making.

Saying you care a lot about a topic, but then being unwilling to take an evening to vote is quite a wild and privileged thing to say. Just re-enforces how closed minded and anti coalition building MLs are. Never said voting is the only thing to do; just that we should. Your rhetoric is effectively saying I’d rather not help my fellow lefties; then you wonder why we don’t get our goals.

Your lack of action hasn’t stopped any genocide.

Check your privilege next time you want to brag about not caring for election results.

Not everyone is privileged enough to be as apathetic to the election results.

Ohhh hey Brain, glad your still out here trying to rage bait.

In my experience tankies are very closed minded and ironically against collective action; given how much effort they put to avoid building coalition and elections.

They also like to assume that they are driving change when its not clear where they are outside of the internet.

God is giving her strength, Amen!

With ICE. They have more funding than the USMC. Let’s see how they can handle some real action.

doesn’t mean we aren’t out there making up a good portion of the front line against fascism.

Can’t be bothered to vote; don’t imagine that you are actually out there when the stakes are more personal.

You’re just making up shit and running with it (like that Marxists have some “purity” test against voting even though plenty did vote for De la Cruz but refused to vote for a fascist genocidal Democrat which is ACTUALLY what pissed of liberals like you).

I rest my case.

Your privilege is showing

It is still helpful to be heard and minimize harm. Its good that you are privileged and won’t be targeted by ICE for example, but others are. Voting as left as possible shows that the overall population is not going to welcome them.

Enjoy your privilege @Cowbee@lemmy.ml, the rest of us do have to deal with the consequences of the elections.

Weather they are militant or simply political groups doesn’t change what I wrote. Do MLs not want others to see they are the group that is walking the talk and get more people to join in? I don’t imagine they want to have such a short reach.

Its not an accusation if you are putting this much energy into telling me why elections don’t matter. At least do the minimum there and encourage your fellow MLs to do so.

So your saying that MLs care so much they can’t spare an afternoon?

Glad you did, please help encourage more people to do so as well. We could all have an even bigger leftist movement. Voting is only a small part of what we need to do, but we should not neglect it.

I feel I am. I have presented my case. You’re the one that wants to be counter productive and making excuses for people to stay home. “There will be opposition”, brov there will be in each case. Just take an evening to vote its a small ask; the fact its too big for you means we cannot count on you for the bigger stuff.

The point is that taking the system over on a strictly legal basis

You can’t because you don’t vote.

You can’t otherwise because your movement can’t even coordinate (or is to apathetic) to vote; much less to storm the capital.

I see.

MLs would want to build credibility of their movement and they would be advertising who they are. When they houthis walk the talk and lob missiles at Israel or ships they are clear that it was them and why they are doing what they are. That helps bolster their movement and recruit more people to do even more.

If you are the group doing the action you want it known so that you can keep growing.

ook at Allende, he was voted in and then immediately coup’d for it by Pinochet and the US Empire. Revolution is necessary.

A revolution could also be coup’ed therefore we should not make one by your own logic.