Th4tGuyII

Exactly. At that point the only leverage he had over anyone was the secrets he held on his elite “friends”. There’s no reason to think he wouldn’t have spilled to save his own skin, so all the more motivation for his elite “friends” to prevent that by force

Well if anyone here had any doubts about Patel being a slimey cunt, this ought to put a nail through them

What a terribly bad faith argument. Not a single bit of that actually matters to the substance of this discussion.

My direct input on this keyboard is what ends up on the screen. My interpretation, my words, my creative decisions (or lack thereof), and my mistakes.

You AI is instructed by you. It takes your words and interprets them according to its own training data. It uses its own words, its creative decisions, and makes its own mistakes.

If you can’t see the difference between those two things, and why someone might think a person having done the latter but claiming the former might be seen as insulting, then there’s no point in having this discussion.

As I said in my reply directly to you, I don’t have an issue with vibe-coding itself.

And I do understand that our interactions of the world are mediated by tools, but those tools are things we use to assist in our direct input.

… And even independent tools like autocompletion requires me to actually type the words I intend to use. I have a direct input on what the autocompletion does, because its completing my words, not typing them for me.

Prompting an AI to do something isn’t actually doing the thing, it’s managing another entity that does the thing for you. It’s a tool, but it’s a tool that thinks entirely for itself.

So when vibe-coders say the “coded” something the AI produced, or vibe-artists say they “drew” something an AI generated, it grinds my gears - because its not the same, and will never be.

If you code enough, if you draw enough, you get better at it. If you prompt an AI enough, you don’t get better at either of those things - you just get better at prompting the AI.

Yes, because I directly typed on that keyboard. My fingers pressed each and every key to make each and every letter of this text you’re reading.

The keyboard is a tool to interface with a computer, in the same way you need a hammer to push a nail, a screwdriver to drive a screw, or a knife cuts through things.

I didn’t ask somebody else to go hammer the nail, screw the screw, or cut the thing then take credit for doing the thing I didn’t do.

Managing a process isn’t the same as doing the process, and in the same way, prompting an AI to make code for you isn’t the same as actually making that code, and never will be.

Edit:

I should say I don’t actually have anything against Vibe-coding itself, apart from the environmental implications of AI, and for personal projects I imagine it’s probably quite useful.

What grinds my gears is when people say “they” coded something, knowing full well they didn’t write a single line of code. It’s like Vibe-artists saying they “drew” something DALI made.

Its fine to do it, but just admit that’s what you did, rather than trying to take credit for a thing you didn’t do.

tinkerer built an app to control their own device with a PlayStation controller.

who used Claude Code to reverse engineer the protocol

Did they build it though? Sounds like vibe-coding to me

the problem does not lie in the encryption used by the robot vacuum when communicating with its server, but that all the data is stored in plain text and can easily be read by anyone who gains access to the server.

Having said that, this is atrocious!

What’s the point in encrypting user data in transit if you’re just gonna leave it unencrypted at rest??

If you’re going to store user data, at least have the decency to make sure its protected against malicious actors.

It’s very lucky that the person who discovered it was a vibe-coding good Samaritan, rather than somebody willing to exploit it for money

Because then they’d have to eat into their own profits, and they’d rather die than do that.

Easier to pressure the people they’re already profitting off of to give them more money then claim “we” donated to so-and-so charity for good PR and a tax deduction.

Man, not a good look for a company who boasts about the repairability of their phones to hide key software repair tools behind an arbitrary paywall - especially when required because of their own faulty update via their official channels.

This is why I never recommend updating devices straight away. Give time for the dust to settle and major faults/vulnerabilities to be ironed out first.

Entirely this. Using “protecting the children” as a platform to gain more surveillance powers comes off real fucking deadpan when there’s the whole exposed rich cabal of paedophiles operating basically in the open that nobody’s doing anything more than symbolic gestures about…

Even if their names aren’t public due to all the redactions, the Governments of the world most certainly know who these people are and could absolutely pursue their arrest, but simply just won’t.

Yeah…

To the people “wanting to teach the DNC a lesson”, in the nicest way possible, you’re fucking idiots.

They threw literally ever other minority group under the bus, and got absolutely nothing for it - if anything they actually got less than nothing, because Trump wasn’t just going soft on Israel, he was actively cheering them on!

I will never understand the mentality of choosing that hill to die on… Like couldn’t you guys have waited until Trump was at least off the board first.

Man was literally on his way to a lifetime in jail and bankruptcy, that he got out of scot-free because you guys decided 2024 was the time for a protest vote.