挂路灯人

Dude, tried to give this a second chance, but you fucks are just regurgitating AI while accusing me of doing the same, with no fucking point.

Entirely untrue but if it makes you feel better about your self you can feel free to believe it. Also no one accused you of using ai? Are you hallucinating? You were accused of being arrogant, unintelligent and there was an implication of you being annasshole (which I feel is quite accurate given the crash out) nothing about ai that’s all you.

Spend all the money that you would inherit to pretend to be smart. Fuck all social media.

This is just a nonsense random non sequitur.

In reality, I am actually a rather nice guy, and I buy dinners for the homeless.

Hard to believe given you’ve been nothing but artogant and an asshole this entire time, but even if true so what? Do you want a standing ovation for doing the bare minimum of allegedly having human decency?

This was supposed to be a network that would protect against bots. And now we have meat puppets

More dehumanising nonsense fantasies so you can shield yourself from the fact that you are as unintelligent as you are arrogant.

Wow and now onto dehumanising me about… AI? What the fuck does AI have to do with anything?

Yes you are actually worse than the average Redditor was in my experience all the arrogance and somehow even less capable and intelligent (truly a spectacular feat I am very impressed).

Marx Engels or even any later Marxists have ever advocated for.

Marx, Engels, or even any later Marxists have ever advocated for.*

My apologies for not having perfect punctuation but your reading comprehension is truly abysmal.

Really unnecessarily aggressive for not being able to piece together the blatantly obvious fact I’m Chinese. No wonder your understanding of Marx is so poor if you can’t even manage this. Also what wall of text? It’s a sentence, a short paragraph, and 2 quotes if that’s a wall of text in your eyes it again speaks to your reading capability (or more importantly lack there of) and really demystifies how you could arrive at the completely nonsensical “understanding” you did.

Where are you from?

I invite you to take a guess given the obvious context clues.

I am only speaking to what the manifesto was proposing and nothing more.

You’re speaking to what you imagined it was proposing not at all what it actually proposed not to mind when you take into account the wider writings of both Marx and Engels (as is necessary to truly understand the pamphlet that the manifesto is) both consistently differentiate between the state as an instrument of class rule and what we would call the government as an institution providing a necessary function of administration in advanced societies.

While the merely repressive organs of the old governmental power were to be amputated, its legitimate functions were to be wrested from an authority usurping pre-eminence over society itself, and restored to the responsible agents of society itself."

— The Civil War in France

State interference in social relations becomes, in one domain after another, superfluous, and then dies out of itself; the government of persons is replaced by the administration of things, and by the conduct of processes of production. The state is not ‘abolished’. It dies out.

— Anti Duhring

I am also certain that you can provide nothing to back up the one world government claim (unless you choose to cherry pick and misinterpret harder than an evangelical) as it is simply not a position that Marx Engels or even any later Marxists have ever advocated for.

Truly don’t understand why we went to Lemmy to get away from pointless internet warrior kids/idiots and bots,

I don’t know about you but I came to Lemmy because my friend recommended the communist side of it as an interesting place to practice English without the racial abuse of non self hating Chinese that is normalised on Reddit and RedditorLemmy.

When now we have pointless internet warrior kids accusing people of being bots.

Sorry to hear that but I did no such thing I simply found your comment to be far too wrong and completely divorced from the material at hand for how confidently you were saying it.

Do you have a fucking punching bag, because I am not it. Why write so much to literally say nothing? Is your life so bleak?

I think I said the main things that were on my mind when I saw your comment. Honestly I don’t even know where to begin to try explain this to you given that you didn’t seem to be able to grasp such a base concept as the difference between the state and government not toind the complete strawman invention of your mind of the one world government idea or complete lack of understanding of the USSR and it’s many achievements compared to where it actually had issues.

Harrypotterism/starwarsism unfortunately remains alive and well at the heart of the empire.

The entire system depends on building a one world government with the hopes that the dictator of the proletariat, once they gain world domination, will simply step down and destroy government once and for all.

The fact you have such a shallow understanding of the material as to have this be part of your takeaway of what Marxists advocate for while speaking with such unearned confidence truly boggles the mind. A worse grasp of the material than your average Chinese school child. Not to mind the pure mind numbing nonsense of the rest of this word vomit.

If you’re not going to engage even with academic papers provided and continue to bang your head on an idiotic strawman of internal parties as opposed to the outside pressure which lead investing the spoils of plunder in buying off the proletariat at home such that socialism would remain fringe I think it’s best we leave this here. I thought Europeans were supposed to be more politically competent and capable of reasonable debate than Americans but perhaps that was simply a rumour.

Petersen, K. The early Cold War and the Western welfare state

The Cold War and the Welfare State in Western Europe

Bhambra, G. K. Relations of extraction, relations of redistribution: Empire, nation, and the construction of the British welfare state

Race and Colonialism in the Construction of Labour Markets and the Welfare State

Colonialism, Postcolonialism and the Liberal Welfare State

Read Settlers

First I’m not American or European. Second since the end of WW2 Europe has been a client state of the US. Third Europeans and American are equally contemptuous of the global south. Fourth you have provided “data and links” to back your claims against a strawman you constructed in your mind, you have yet to even once engage with anything I’ve said so you might as well have not provided any.

You’re really not engaging with what I’m saying. I’m not saying it was ml parties within the country but that the momentum of the socialist block and risk of spreading worker resentment and solidarity forced the ruling class in Europe and America into providing some basic concessions to workers at home in the form of welfare benefits etc alongside a healthy dose of McCarthyism such that the home situation would remain stable and extraction from the global south could continue. Then once the Socialist block hit the major setback of the Soviet collapse they began repealing said benefits as is plainly seen right through to the modern day.

I’m responding to European countries initial worker protections that you mentioned. These weren’t received from voting but given as concessions in the face of the socialist block to keep stability at home for a tiny fraction of the imperial and colonial loot.

Not quite accurate. Those protections were concessions given to blunt the momentum of the Soviets and to keep the homebase of Europeans happy while they looted the global south. Effectively paying a slight portion of the loot to pacify possible unrest. In effect the autocracy was there simply offshored onto the global south, now that the global south is liberating itself and the contradictions of capital are heightening the autocracy is returning home to Europe as the bourgeoisie needs to tighten the belt at home to make up for it.

imperialism

genocidal

I don’t think you know what these words mean.

Doesn’t really change the fact that you are commenting on a post where it is explicitly about a “victims of communism” memorial and it turns out the best they could do was a bunch of Nazis which sort of flies in the face of your whitewashing attempt in your comment don’t you think?

Also victims of communism is a ridiculous framing but that’s more of a tangent.

The post is quite literally about a victims of communism memorial that had to be taken down because it was mostly Nazis. Do you read posts before you comment?

I find people are generally more polite when you don’t call them hypocritical blind tribalists and nationalists for not conforming to what you think they should believe based on what you’ve simply osmosised from the hegemonic liberal view on the matter and instead stick to polite questions and requests for clarification until you’re more informed.

I don’t believe those protesters were violent

Most were hence the relatively peaceful evacuation of the square itself. That being said there are plenty of images of soldiers in dire straights at the hands of the more violent elements. Here is an English language display of some of the images very NSFW CW:Dead bodies, Violence, Blood, Weapons.