References that I thought this was before I looked it up: star wars EU (gom jabba-r), or one piece (gomu gomu jabbar). It was neither and just dune.

I can picture Yud smirking to himself, thinking of how clever he is for shoving a sci-fi reference into a fantasy universe, in doing so injecting just a little more rationality into an otherwise irrational genre.

Anyway here’s the rejected RP1 theme song

midichlorian lore is better than this dreck. rare midichlorian W

This is basically the zodiac but LLM generated

If LW banned all its energy vampires then it would have no users

This shit is absolutely something an uncritical liberal YIMBY would do

Specifically, as to the Alex Jones thing, yes it has come up before. RE: everything else, I will have a think before any further response.

Really hate to say this, but if you’re coming from a place of ignorance and want to ask about what terms mean, you might want to be extra careful with how you ask. You should also do some homework on your own before trying to participate.

Asking this question as a means of opening the door to the topic: given that you’ve seen some of your work referenced here, are there any corrections/grievances etc. that you have, either specifically towards sneer club or otherwise? Not trying to stir up drama, again, just wanting to open the door for those kinds of thoughts/responses.

I read a review (the one hosted on the ebert site) and it seems like this just falls into one of the patterns we’ve already seen when other people not steeped in the X risk miasma engage with it. As in, what should be a documentary about how the AI industry is a bubble and that all the AI ceos are grifters or deluded or both, is instead a “somehow I managed to fall for Yud’s whole thing and am now spreading the word” type deal. Big sigh!

I feel like I nailed my guess

Pure speculation: my guess is that an “apocaloptimist” is just someone fully bought into all of the rationalist AI delulu. Specifically:

• AGI is possible
• AGI will solve all our current problems
• A future where AGI ends humanity is possible/probable

and they take the extra belief, steeped in the grand tradition of liberal optimism, that we will solve the alignment problem and everything will be ok. Again, just guessing here.

dead dove

Truer words, dawg. Amongst everything else, what the fuck is up with the subtitle.

The real question: are you Shakespeare x Fair Youth or Fair Youth x Shakespeare?

No, it’s not reasonable. This is what you’re saying:

1. Matter can have consciousness (see: humans).
2. Computers are made of matter.

• Therefore, it’s conceivable that a computer can have consciousness.

This is logically valid but meaningless. There’s nothing to be done with this. There’s no reason to be had here.

Then we have the banal take of “if we had a magic box with infinite capabilities, it could do X!”, where, in this case, X happens to be “have consciousness”. Ok! Great. You have fun playing in the sandpit, thinking about your magic box. I’m gonna smoke cigarettes and play slot machines for an hour.

It’s only when we start bringing the discussion down to simulations on a Turing machine that this stuff gets interesting. But that’s not what y’all are trying to talk about, because you haven’t read the goddamn essay.

Man. Using Sonnet 18 here is just utterly brilliant. There’s a lot that could be said but my angle is: you can’t directly compare someone to a summer’s day; it has to be done through poetry and metaphor. Shit, cat. Shaka when the walls fell.

ah, I see. Ok. Well, based on all that, you haven’t actually engaged with anything from the post, nor have you said anything non-trivial. Was hoping that you’d at least say something wrong instead.

How do you define consciousness?

money please!

He’s saying the loud part out quiet

What’s kinda fun is that Yud prefaces this with basically “i have not personally read up on the zizian texts”, and then follows it up with this stuff. Now, did he make this stuff up himself in a weird ego play, or did he hear it from someone else and decided to hold onto it, also as an ego play?