Elastic belts are free size and normally don’t tear at all. meaning they can last for life.

I am kind of surprised that they are not commonly recommended in the anti-consumption/ buy it for life communities. Despite the fact that replacing normal belts with them at scale would save the world shitload of resources that are spent on normal belts annually.

Side note: I don’t recommend wearing jeans or suit trousers on daily basis, as there is more durable options that can last for longer time.

Photo is for example, as this is a generic item.

  • EntheoNaut@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    Elastic ALWAYS breaks down and is made from polymers and nylon crap.

    Horrible advice. Buy good quality leather and it lasts decades.

    Shit advice OP.

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      2 months ago

      Buy good quality leather and it lasts decades.

      Where can I find these? Every time a belt wears out I buy a more expensive leather one looking for one that will last. I have not yet found one that stays in good enough shape to wear to work after a year of use. I’m buying new belts every year and moving last years belts to my home/rough jeans use.

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        2 months ago

        I’ve heard good things about NAB Leather, but have no personal experience.

        What you want is single-piece full-grain leather about 10-12 oz weight. (This is a leather thickness measurement, not the weight of the belt.)

        I find that trade shows (e.g, home/garden shows) often have a few vendors who make top quality belts.

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        2 months ago

        I bought mine at artisan fairs, from leatherworkers. Been wearing it for more than five years now every day. It shows a bit of wear, but I think it will last at least another five

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        2 months ago

        A flea market. Find a local leather worker and they can make one super fast with good quality leather. “Genuine Leather” is one of the lowest quality leathers out there.

        You’ll probably need to take care of it if you want it for work. Cleaning and conditioning it.

        Personally, I avoid belts that are narrow, like 1" wide, as I think they like to twist more if they have to do a lot of lifting.

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        2 months ago

        Best advice is to learn how to identify real leather vs laminated shit. Once you can tell by sight, smell, feel you can thrift great items. Also going to markets and craft fairs, you can stumble across artisan leather makers (but even then you gotta make sure they are using quality products)

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      2 months ago

      You probably want something a little more baggy, jeans can be snug around the thighs and that wears out the material fast. If you have the crotch fail then that is your problem.

      There is also the material used, elastane and tencel/rayon have low tensile strength and wear out fast while polyester and especially nylon are very strong. Recycled materials are also weaker than they otherwise would be because the recycling process cuts them up. In general 100% cotton is good and I would give blends a close look. Wool and linen and ramie are all pretty uncommon in jeans and jeans adjacent things but despite their many other positive qualities they aren’t super strong; wool has a low tensile strength and linen and ramie tend to fail when bent a lot.

      Also consider the weight and the weave, thinner material is going to wear through faster while thicker stuff is going to be tougher. Also a reverse sateen weave should last a little longer, it is like the twill leave in denim but oriented sideways so everything is smooth while going forward (and not smooth up/down but what can you do) so it catches and snags and stuff less.

      So you will probably have a better time with some baggy or at least roomy reverse sateen cotton-poly or 100% cotton military fatigues. Or other pants with those qualities, just fatigues are common to see like that

      Good luck

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        2 months ago

        There’s quite a range of quality and durability in denim, but it can be extremely durable. It was associated with physical labor in the US for a long time and especially in its old West (cowboys, railway workers, etc). You can still find a pair of jeans that will last you the rest of your life and then be sold in a vintage store, but they’re not cheap. Cargo pants have a similar range but I think they’re typically made of duck canvas.

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    2 months ago

    Cant remember when I last wore a belt. But isn’t the entire point of them is to be adjustable.

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      2 months ago

      I was going to say… I’ve had an elastic belt that basically disintegrated when I pulled it out of the closet after not having worn it in 15 years (wore it for 5 years before that).

      “For life”? No. Pretty long time? Probably.

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    2 months ago

    I bought one of these a few years ago and it’s still in great shape despite frequent use.

    Way better, and more comfortable, than a traditional belt.

    Obviously it’d be better if they were made from sustainable materials but the fact that these outlast traditional belts by a wide margin is good.

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    2 months ago

    I have one that has lost elasticity and has become warped, but I do think they’re better than traditional belts.

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      2 months ago

      Interesting, I didn’t know they could lose elasticity. Maybe after more than 5 years of use?

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        2 months ago

        All elastic material degrades with time and use, this can be made worse by environmental factors like heat or moisture.

        A good quality leather belt will outlast any elastic one, quality leather belts are just harder to find nowadays.

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        I can’t tell from pictures, but I do not believe the belt in the picture is elastic. It looks like Nylon which isn’t elastic and should last for a long time. It will wear out, but with care should last for a lifetime. I’ve seen elastic belts similar to the above, and those the elastic will get old and wear out in 10-20 years. Belts like pictured can also be made of other fibers (both natural and synthetic), that are not elastic. Some of them will last longer than others - it is important to know what the belt is made of, not just the style.

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    2 months ago

    I do think these are preferable to normal belts, but every one I’ve worn with regularity has torn rather dramatically in the middle of the workday. One of them I had to replace with a power cable.

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      2 months ago

      The elastic in underwear lasts a lot longer if you don’t put them in the dryer. Unless you regularly enjoy the sound of a buckle hitting the drum over and over, it’ll last a while in a belt.

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    2 months ago

    I usually recommend seatbelt belts to friends because they are highly adjustable and very long lasting. I picked up the black GM one over 20 years ago, it stayed with me when my weight fluctuated 50lbs up and back down again. It was extremely useful in my old physically active job, I can catch the corner of a box on the buckle and hold heavier weight a lot easier.

    I love it so much, I bought the TMNT belt as soon as I saw it and because I looooove ninja turtles 😬

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    2 months ago

    I bought two Grip6 belts like a decade ago, and they still show very little wear.

    It’s a very simple design: a durable strap (no holes), and a buckle that’s just a solid chunk of metal (no moving parts).

    I would highly recommend them at the prices I paid back then… But holy shit their prices have increased a lot. Still might be worth it as a BIFL, but still hard to justify for such simple parts.

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    2 months ago

    How does a belt like the one in the image work? There are no holes, which I guess is a point of them, but do you just cram the metal of the buckle through the weave there or how does it hold?

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    I just started making my own belts. Most leather belts are made of thin veneer of leather. It might even be marketed as 'top grain leather" to make it seem special. Get whole grain leather.

    I bought parts from one of the last Tandy Leather retail locations. Brought them home and used my hole punches I picked up at Harbor Freight for a different project and some grommets I got for a different project and made a belt. Out of pocket cost was maybe $16. That belt will last me decades.

    In theory I could knit some belts with any number of sturdy materials like leftover metal cables but I have never felt the need.

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    Ooh, somehow I’ve never heard of these before. Somebody ahould start making them out of dandelion rubber, algae polyurethane, or a flexible formulation of polyhydroxyalkanoates.

    About your jeans/suit trousers comment, do you have a recommendation for more durable pants as well?

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        They’re still a bit pricey compared to the disposable pants you’d buy at a large chain store, but N&F has a brand (unbranded brand) that is notably cheaper and lacks the N&F branding.

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      2 months ago

      do you have a recommendation for more durable pants as well?

      I recommend Cargo pants and pants made from polyester.

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        2 months ago

        Natural materials are always better and worth any costs comparative to the crap you’re praising OP.

        Fuck polymers altogether.