• Secret_Music@piefed.blahaj.zone
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      2 months ago

      It’s not even that sexy. Motoko wears a dumb outfit on and off for about half of SAC season 1 but for the rest of the time she actually wears pants. And she clearly has a sex life that would scare the christians but even then, it’s not a main feature and mostly hinted at. In the '95 movie, she has to get nude to use her optical camouflage but personally, the movie and its sequel are bottom of the list for me in terms of favourites and are the odd ones out.

      I honestly haven’t watched Blade Runner but going by the short story Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep, they’re nothing alike. Ghost in the Shell is about cyborgs with human brains, not robots mimicking humans. And it can get philosophical, it does also have AIs that might just have ghosts themselves, but it’s mostly action and political intrigue.

      SAC 2045 is pretty dumbed down but the thing I love about the rest (especially the original SAC) is that it tends to have a complex storyline with a lot of different moving parts and subplots at the same time.

      As a subtitles viewer, it’s a shit load of reading and something that I can rewatch multiple times and pick up more each time. Something that I don’t even get from Ghibli movies.

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      The Ghost in the Shell has a lot of “what would life be like if people could connect their brains directly to the internet or put their brains in cyborg bodies”. It’s top-tier sci-fi, but keep in mind that it was written in the late 80s/early 90s so it has some ideas that were fresh then but somewhat less fresh now. There are a few different anime adaptations out there; my personal favorite is the one that’s airing right now on Amazon Prime, but Ghost in the Shell Stand-Alone Complex is also great. The currently-airing one does a really good job of preserving the sometimes-goofy, sometimes-serious tone of the original; Stand-Alone Complex is good if you just want it to be serious most of the time. The movies are also good, but IMHO not as good.

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        Personally, seeing the closer to original version of events in the new series, has made me like the movies even less, especially the second movie. Also, the older I get, the less ‘philosophical’ they seem and the more full of it they seem.

        Also doesn’t help that this latest series has had a lot of movie fans shitting on it, that all came out of the woodwork for this but apparently never noticed SAC or Arise or the fact that the movies are based on something else themselves.

        It gave me flashbacks of the ‘lifelong’ X-Men fans showing up to complain about X-Men '97 ruining their childhoods by going ‘woke’.

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          Yeah, some people have been really weird about how the new show is “ruining the original” as if Science Saru took the movies (not original; as you alluded to they’re based on the manga) and threw them into a lake or something when they made the new thing.

          Meanwhile it’s been freakin’ amazing. By the time it finishes airing it might end up being my favorite TV show, ever.

    • Luminous5481 "Enemy of the State"@anarchist.nexus
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      2 months ago

      Does Ghost in the Shell deal with any fresh ideas

      they were fresh when the story was first written. at this point, the line between cyberpunk and reality is getting depressingly thin. there is some sexy moments, but the story is one intended for mature audiences, so the sexuality is a normal part of life and isn’t the usual fanservice. oftentimes it’s part of the narrative of whatever is happening in the story as well (sex bots hacked and used to assassinate diplomats, the impact of physical relations in a trans-humanist society where gender no longer matters and is something rich people swap at will, etc.). it’s not often you get something that’s included just to be funny or titillate the audience, and I appreciate that.