• NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
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      1 year ago

      Eh, they exist. You’ve got classics like Death Note and more recent stuff like Frieren. It’s definitely a short list though.

      • Nikelui@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        It’s not that short, you just need to pick a genre different from shounen if you don’t like fanservice. Also many older shounen are good, think about the Digimon, Pokémon and Gundam franchises to name a few famous ones.

        • anyhow2503@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          Why is that sad? The depiction of demons as creatures that are incapable of empathy and exploit human compassion as an evolutionary strategy is interesting and makes for good drama and moral conflicts in the show. I’m honestly tired of the standard plot about demons just being misunderstood poor little babies that humans bully for seemingly no reason. I understand why that is a popular theme - it resonates with most of our own history after all, but it’s been done to absolute death.

          • HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            1 year ago

            They are shown to have morality and free will, so there are some who can follow and believe our morality. Every time Frieren fires first she is in the wrong.

            I would also enjoy that kind of story, but then the author wanted to make demons interesting and gave them free will and morality. This is what ruins the show for me.

            • anyhow2503@lemmy.world
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              1 year ago

              They do have free will but where have you seen any depiction of morality as humans understand it? You also need to understand that a characters thoughts and actions are up to your own interpretation and do not necessarily reflect the authors opinions. Even if I were to disagree with Frieren the character as strongly as you seem to, then it still wouldn’t detract from my enjoyment of the show. I don’t need my entertainment to regurgitate my own morals to me.

        • oce 🐆@jlai.lu
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          1 year ago

          And so does Lord of the Rings. It’s fantasy, having obviously good people and obviously bad people you kill without remorse is part of the genre.

    • Nefara@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Delicious in Dungeon, Frieren, Hands off my Eizouken, and Bocchi the Rock probably

      Edited to add Spy x Family, and I suppose Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood depending on if one feels Winry is sexualized.

      • Psychadelligoat@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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        1 year ago

        As much as I fuckin love Frieren they totally sexualize Fern when she’s under 18, though tbh it does feel less gross than usual considering how clothed she is & the weird relationship she has with her master

        Frieren is suuuuuper jealous of Fern once she starts developing (with the show repeatedly using camera angles to show it) and Fern’s 18th birthday is in the later half of the first season. It was funny and rather realistic having been around girls that behaved like that, but as an adult man it was obvious the camera had a serious liking of staring at Fern’s chest whenever it could

      • Sat@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
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        1 year ago

        Don’t worry, the number of people saying Frieren is a child is astounding

        • egrets@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          Although she appears to be very young, she was born into a long-lived race of elves and has lived for over a thousand years.

          Oh, that old chestnut.

          • Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de
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            1 year ago

            Not really, she really is just an old elf lady who looks like a young adult human. There’s nothing sexualised about her, and she’s not childlike. For example here she is next to a human child who becomes her apprentice:

            And here she is talking to a human priest she was adventuring with 50 years ago, he’s grown old, she hasn’t changed:

            And here she is head patting him, to give him reassurance that he did well after he confides that he never felt like he figured out how to be “a grown up” and just kept faking it while growing old:

            The human child is Fern, and the old Priest Heiter picked her up after she was orphaned by a demon attack. Heiter asks Frieren to keep taking care of Fern after his death, and mentor her in magic.

            It’s a really nice relationship driven story with an interesting storyline and magic system.

          • Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish
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            1 year ago

            As everyone else has said, she’s not a child-but-actually-ancient. The show is not about sex. It’s about mortality. I started watching it, and I want to continue, but it’s really depressing. I wasn’t in the right mood to keep going.

            As far as I’m aware, there are absolutely no sexual undertones in the show. It’s sometimes funny, but it’s also pretty serious.

    • msage@programming.dev
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      1 year ago

      You’ve never seen Spice and Wolf? Chihayafuru? Hibike! Euphonium? Mushishi? Samurai Champloo? Death Note? Inferno Cop?

  • starman2112@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    Reposting from the last time this subject came up

    Bolded titles are my top recs. Series listed in chronological order of my seeing them:

    Steins;Gate (correction: episode 8 unfortunately has one character grope another one. Everyone rightfully calls him out for being a creepass)

    Castlevania (shut up yes it is)

    Vivy: Fluorite Eyes Song

    Violet Evergarden (not the movie)

    Hyouka (skip the ova)

    Belle

    A Silent Voice

    Baccano

    Deca-dence

    Trigun

    Akudama Drive

    ACCA: 13 Territory Inspection Dept.

    Fullmetal Alchemist

    Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood

    Spy Family

    Mushishi

    5 Centimeters Per Second

    Afro Samurai

    Your Lie In April

    Nichijou

    Odd Taxi

    Cowboy Bebop

    Canaan

    Sk8 the Infinity

    Supercrooks

    Bocchi the Rock

    House of Five Leaves

    Weathering With You

    Haibane Renmei

    Samurai Flamenco

    BNA

    Redline

    Planetes

    Last Exile

    Witch Hunter Robin

    Noir

    Wolf’s Rain

    Boogiepop Phantom

    Boogiepop And Others

    Ghost In The Shell (all timelines)

    Niea_7

    Serial Experiments Lain

    Megalo Box

    Bakumatsu Kikansetsu Irohanihoheto

    Samurai Champloo

    Bubblegum Crisis

    Ergo Proxy

    Read Or Die (OVA and The TV)

    Madlax

    Moribito

    Xam’d: Lost Memories

    Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind

    Kyousougiga

    Orb: On the Movements of the Earth

    Cyberpunk Edgerunners

    Sonny Boy

    Kiki’s Delivery Service

    Sora no Manimani

    Apocalypse Hotel

    Thus concludes the exhaustive list of animes I’ve watched where I didn’t have to put up with any sexualization of minors

      • starman2112@sh.itjust.works
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        7 months ago

        That is one of my favorite sentences in the English language. Of all of the TV shows that I often recommend, Haibane Renmei is the one that makes me happiest when people say they enjoyed it

      • 𝕲𝖑𝖎𝖙𝖈𝖍🔻𝕯𝖃 (he/him)@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        1 year ago

        thematically appropriate for the setting. Night city is fucking horrible, and no one should pretend that it isn’t.

        also, i just watched that, like, within the last couple hours recently.

        The relationship between lucy and david feels kinda forced, but other than that, 9/10 no notes.

  • missingno@fedia.io
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    1 year ago

    There’s a lot of terrible anime, but there’s also a lot of fantastic anime. There’s a lot of anime.

      • Carrot@lemmy.today
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        1 year ago

        Vast majority? Eh, maybe. I watch a crazy amount of anime, and I’ve only had a few of the shows I’m interested in pull that, and typically I just don’t continue watching. The one trope that I really dislike that gets shoehorned into almost any anime is the over-infatuation of a sibling. I’m not talking incest or anything, but for some reason there’s almost always a character who is obsessed with their sister/brother, and it weirds me out. Not enough to stop watching if the anime is otherwise good, but definitely enough to stop watching if the anime is just soso.

        Now, oversexualization of adult characters? That’s almost unavoidable. I tend to just ignore it, until I show an anime to someone who hasn’t seen anime before and then I’m hyper aware of it. That’s why when introducing people to anime I usually pick Death Note or Fullmetal Alchemist. These anime have a good dose of the anime goofiness, but very little fanservice, almost none.

      • thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        mainstream amine maybe, but there is A LOT of anime out there.

        your comment is like saying that Hollywood only ever made super hero movies.

        • anyhow2503@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          Campfire cooking in another world and Welcome to demon school, Iruma-kun! are my main recommendations. There’s also some trash that would fit your criteria, but I wouldn’t recommend watching that (like that one slime tamer anime I can’t recall the title of). Also a dozen or so otome villainess reincarnation anime should fit your criteria, those are getting pretty popular now, though I haven’t watched any of the anime yet. Also some older stuff like Inuyasha might be up your alley, but honestly it’s been too long since I’ve seen them in their entirety, so I can’t really remember. Obviously Isekai is by far the most fan service-y theme in every possible way since most of it leans into power fantasy aspects to flatter the target demographic. In fact, if this was an actual honest question, I would recommend looking at the broader fantasy category, where there is a lot more variety and quality to be found.

    • starman2112@sh.itjust.works
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      1 year ago

      I think most of my list applies

      Maybe without

      Steins;Gate because of that scene where a guy gropes a girl (though everyone rightfully calls him out for being a creep)

      Castlevania because sex scene

      Akudama Drive because Doctor is heavily sexualized

      Fullmetal Alchemist because Lust is Lust

      Cowboy Bebop because Faye is kinda sexualized

      Supercrooks because the intro (which is a bop and you should listen to it anyway)

      Redline because of one scene with boobs

      Ghost In The Shell because boobs

      Niea_7 because the very racist Indian stereotype

      Bubblegum Crisis because boobs

      Read Or Die because cleavage

      Cyberpunk Edgerunners because nudity (it’s Cyberpunk lol)

      That looks like a lot of exceptions, but it’s only 12 out of 57 shows/movies

      • doug@lemmy.todayEnglish
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        1 year ago

        To be clear; nudity is fine, just not all-the-time, male-gaze shots put in akin to commercial breaks. Like Gurren Lagan; someone told me to try that one and ye gods the amount of times it was about boobs was ridiiiiiculous.

  • wrinkledoo@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    I find that if you want good anime recommendations, the recommendation must come from someone that doesn’t like anime. Anime fans tend to be really out of touch with certain baselines… like not being an open pervert.(I’ve seen that hentai hoodie, don’t lie.) Also people who don’t like anime can distinguish between “good for an anime” and “good”.

    So I offer mine: Cyberpunk Edgerunners and Spirited Away.

    • jsomae@lemmy.ml
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      1 year ago

      I hate this, e.g. the pairing of Buffy with the 400-year-old Angel. Vampire romance stories are full of this shit and it’s so creepy.