10 years ago OP would’ve been labeled a schizo, now we just accept there’s microphones in everything
I will still argue phones listen to us. Don’t care what you say, it happens. Act accordingly
Remove the microphone from your phone
So you are left with a -micro? A mega?!
Lmao
It’s sad isn’t it?
The walls are listening
i hate living in a cyberpunk dystopia
It’ll only get worse don’t worry. The next TVs will brick if you physically remove the microphone or wifi.
The least they could do is give us the damn body augmentations already. We got all the shitty parts and none of the cool tech.
the fun stuff from cyberpunk are getting banned,
They won’t even let me transition, let alone give most people general healthcare. Insurance would never cover augmentations
You can have botox and lip fillers and you’ll be happy about it.
It looks way cooler in the movies and video games. We were tricked!
Because in the movies and video games we see the main character. For the NPCs it sucks… and that’s us.
Who the hell are you calling NPC!
turns and casually walks face against wall
Must have been the wind…
You know the irony of this is? My ex-fiances father was labeled as schizophrenic. I mean he was by textbook definition. One day, I would take her to visit him, he says that computers are tracking you. Now, I brushed it off at the time, probably a conspiracy theory right? but I did think about it.
L3 was tracking internet data already, at least, in the early 2000’s. A little game of what’s connecting to my computer showed me that, but I didn’t know what it was at the time. Well now I know, g-sec company has been tracking us from routers for over twenty years; same company after the merger that makes EOTECHs. So the puzzle pieces came together.
I kind of wondered if he really was schizophrenic or medicated to be so? As an a example, tramadol made me have auditory hallucinations that I’ve never experience on acid or mushrooms (college lol).
If this guy is still alive, I bet he’d really appreciate you telling him he was right. It can be exhausting trying to get people to see the issues in society and having everyone just constantly write you off as crazy. Since you’re here posting this instead of reddit, you’ve probably had that experience yourself since then.
I’m not sure honestly it’s been over a decade. Yeah, reddit got weird, bots and people paid to down vote popular opinions. It’s like you get a bunch of down votes and nobody has a reply. A lot of it has to do with text being misunderstood. You can write a text and someone will think you mean something else. Also it’s more fun here, it’s like stepping back in time when people actually wrote to each other on a forum. And yeah, anything that touches change or addresses an actual issue, you’re a radical.
I do wonder if it is that as a society at least in these generations… We lost cause we never did a really good effort into teaching media literacy to everyone, many arguments i hear i think it boils down to lack of media literacy.
We made the effort to make almost everyone be able to read but the effort to find miss direction, biases and manipulation not so much
I think that’s a major point.
Critical thinking is demoralized.
I mean I showed court dockets about Tent Peg Rump to people supporting him—still. And it’s been interesting to see the stubbornness to still show support. It’s like you got rearended over the last year and like the dog meme in the fire, this is fine. Some people just don’t want to admit defeat. At least some people are waking up. Also the other thing is, you can’t show your opinion often. It’s like we’ve reached China’s level of censorship without even knowing.
The problem is not that is stubbornness, (maybe on high level it is) but is more like questioning became something of an insult rather than of dialogue. I get it we all want to believe we know what we know so challenging that is an insult
And the thing is that finding truth is really hard compared to making shit up, and it just continues to grow apart with AI powered stuff. It is something i worry a lot for the future and really don’t think i have a proper idea on how it can be solved
One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest?
PRISM leak was 13 years ago if you want to feel old yet, but then that was just a revelation about how prevelant mass surveillance is, it was Vault 7 in 2017 that detailed how built-in microphones in Smart TVs are used for spying, so that part would indeed be less than 10 years ago
Uhh, did you remove “n2” or “m4” lol?
I removed N2! N1 was the chip for the mic or something.
“Nx” is usually a resistor “n”etwork. The mic is probably something else, it could be the M designators or even a “t”ransducer.
Anyway you may find that the remote uses a bunch of mics. Once you’re no longer trying to catch sound in a way that will be discernible to human ears it can become an order of magnitude cheaper to send several fraction of a cent mics into the 69 dsp channels every fucking soc has nowadays. You’re getting the silicon for free, might as well use it.
Is it really as much of a privacy problem as TV microphones? After all wouldn’t the battery die?
Well this remote is connected to the TV via Bluetooth and the mic is super energy efficient so yeah, to hell with it
I CAN’T HEAR YOU!??
HELLOOO???
YOU SEEMS TO BE MUTED?
I think ill just jeep using my LCD from 2007
Yeah, that’s probably the smart move
No, it’s not smart, that’s the point! ;)
Nice one lmao
FYI most modern TVs have a second microphone actually in the display that’s actually used for the nefarious tracking and listening for assistant wake words to save remote battery life
Things will become more obscure and harder to disable. In fact since you own nothing and you’ll be happy, youre damaging government property and the police are already dispatched to take you to a totally cool and totally legal prison slave camp.
I’ll go down swinging with my hoarded DDR3 sticks
Nah they won’t send the cops, you just gotta drink a verification can
Greetings from Sony.
I thought that greentext was so outrageous when it first appeared, and now its probably going to be reality at some point.
Youtube asking you to say the brand name or the jingle to skip the add. You heard it here first
They’ll gamify it. Remember “Karaoke Revolution”? I think “Rock Band” and its derivatives also built upon it.
Remotes aren’t complicated enough to hide the microphone. It’s more likely that tvs ditch the remote entirely and be voice controlled only, mute people be damned.
There’s gonna be an app to control the TV and you need to register with your government ID to use it and it will required internet access at all times.
Another solution is to cover the mic with some thick gum that can be easily removed. Then it can be sold as it was later.
Why would anyone want to buy your used gum?
You just remove it when selling the remote?
Sell the gum, toss the remote
The last TV I had was a 37 inch I sold in 2020. I stopped watching TV in 2003. I have been terminally online since late 2000 and 2001.
I’ve been terminally online for almost as long, but tbh the TV is good for background noise, or to watch something while you work, shitpost or play on your PC, situated so you can see the TV
Or just buy a cheap 3rd party off brand universal remote. Dont have to use the one that comes with the TV
What? Because I have to demonstrate my control, I understand almost nothing about technology. Don’t tell me it has a chip that controls everything, I make my own TV remote.
Just curious, what kind of batteries are powering the remote and if rechargeable, how often does it need charging? Not saying they wouldn’t do such things, still a good preventative measure, but I’d be surprised if it could sustain telemetry with only the power of AAA batteries in a typical remote.
Two AAA batteries and they weren’t changed in a year so yeah, ouch.
Smart enough to be able to remove the mic from the remote, not smart enough to figure out that its not constantly recording for a year on 2 AAA batteries.
Dude of course it’s not constantly recording, but the fact that it can record on two AAA batteries even every now and then for over a year is ridiculous
Yea that’s true. Does it have a microphone button your remote at least? Also, my original comment was in jest, if it didn’t come across that way.
Anyone know when this started becoming ominous? I’m sure every TV in the sixties didn’t have a microphone on their remotes; I am sure pretty much each one being released today has.
I have a 4k LG TV from around 2020 and it doesn’t have a microphone.
Are you sure? We have two OLEDs (a CX from 2020 and a C1 from 2021), and both have these remotes with microphones:
Yeah no, lol
I have a cheapo Samsung 4K TV from 2019 and it does have one in the mic for sure, not sure about the TV itself. I don’t let the TV connect to the internet though. I did initially because convenience, but now I have an Android TV thingy. Which itself is not perfect, but I don’t live alone, having an HTPC with a mouse and keyboard would be a hassle. Aaaand upon writing this I realized HDMI-CEC is a thing and googled it and Plasma Bigscreen can support it and… shit I need a miniPC now
I bought a Steam Machine for this exact use case, and it’s been pretty sweet. Especially since it can do 4k video decoding. I have it set up to start a Jellyfin server and client when I launch it through steam. Also VacuumTube has been a life saver.
If it works for you, that’s great, for me it sits exactly where it makes zero sense to get. My PC is slightly more powerful so for gaming, it would be inferior. But it’s too expensive just for a HTPC. Something either much more powerful (that could also run local LLMs), or significantly cheaper, would make more sense for me. I’m now eyeing used miniPCs, but I’ll have to see if some of the cheap ones can handle 4k decoding.
tossed mine in the trash when i learned it wanted a bluetooth connection to the tv
It’s so f’ing simple. JUST DON’T CONNECT YOUR TV TO YOUR WIFI. Get your streams from a separate device.
Yeah, that’s what i did, but i had to dig through menus turning shit off because I kept getting pop-ups telling me it needed to connect to the Internet.
Wont be enough. Soon theyre gonna start mesh networking with neighboring devices over bluetooth.
not enough, they might be using your neighbours’ tvs as access points. Physically remove the wireless module
