• Devolution@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Conservatives: He thinks darkies and wage slaves should have universal health care! Hes the antichrist!!!

    Peter Thiel: I know. 😈

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    3 months ago

    As an American, he would be familiar with the consequences of not having it.

  • Noxy@pawb.social
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    3 months ago

    How many Catholic hospitals are there?

    How much wealth does the Vatican have stashed away?

    he can LITERALLY do more than just “urge”.

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    3 months ago

    I fully support socialized medicine for all. One question though, the church owns and operates numerous medical universities and hospitals. Are they really cool with universal healthcare?

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      3 months ago

      To be fair, church-owned hospitals are pretty much closest thing to universal healthcare USA currently has. Government chipping in with their own universal healthcare would relieve a lot of cost, paperwork and trouble from the church.

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      3 months ago

      Interesting thought. If tithing to the catholic church paid for my healthcare, I’d consider signing up.

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      3 months ago

      In Rome like half of the hospitals were ran by the church before they got privatized with neoliberalism

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    3 months ago

    I wonder how many countries’ healthcare the Vatican hoard could fund in perpetuity. The number is greater than one.

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      3 months ago

      I was actually surprised to find out LDS (mormons) are several times wealthier than the Catholic Church on paper.

      Their total revenue is around $30 billion a year. They could, in theory, pay for an entire states medical costs like Utah that spends about $18 billion a year.

      Specially pointed to your comment though, the Catholic Church is already the biggest private healthcare provider in the world. It operates roughly twenty percent of healthcare facilities in the world.

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        3 months ago

        Those are great points. What payment model do the Catholic hospitals usually use? Free to everyone? Or are they operating the hospitals but only under whatever insurance or government coverage exists? I’m sure it varies around the world but I’m curious about the US especially. I think I was born in a Catholic founded hospital. But it seems like they are just the care provider and not so much the funding provider. The world “healthcare” has two meanings in this way.

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          3 months ago

          Yes, they do not pay all the costs. Often times they will write off debts or provide care for free. This is not always the case though. Typically they are funded like a for profit hospital with the major difference being there are no shareholders to take the profit.

          I have heard estimates that they subsidize $60 billion a year in healthcare costs across the US.

          I was trying to get a clearer picture of how many countries the Catholic Church could fund annually but estimating their money is very complicated. They are not centralized like the Mormon church and all their churches operate independently.

          With estimates as high as $2 trillion of total revenue, in theory, they could pay for several European countries. But not something like the whole US that spends $5.3 trillion on healthcare.

          I think this also touches on just general criticism of the Catholic church. Are they really good stewards of their money, is corruption a problem, etc. I have read a lot of conflicting information on these topics.

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    3 months ago

    Nice. He understands there’s a better way than praying and small time charity work. Now if he can just convince his flock…

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    3 months ago

    That’s rather pointed as there is only one first world country that does not have universal healthcare.

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      3 months ago

      Sort of. A lot of us (countries) have some kind of public healthcare, but it’s not really universal.

      From experience in Australia: dental isn’t included, physio is limited, out of pocket costs can be large for non-hospital visits because it’s not a public system just a private subsidy model (mostly), wait times for “elective” surgery can be way, way longer on the public system because private health is permitted to exist and the public system is underfunded/understaffed.

      What’s worse is that private health cover is allowed to just cover the difference between public and private, meaning even if you go private, the public is still paying. Like, you wanna be private, fuck off and go be private then… (Talking to the private healthcare advocates, not the people. I have some level of private healthcare cover, even though I think it’s a fucking stupid system)

      List goes on.

      It’s WAY better than the US, but I refuse to call it universal.