• zzffyfajzkzhnsweqm@sh.itjust.works
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    27 days ago

    My hot take: If most atheists would use the same definition for God as most Christians do, they would consider themselves as Christians.

    And most christians would be considered atheists if they used common atheist definition.

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      26 days ago

      If most atheists would use the same definition for God as most Christians do, they would consider themselves as Christians.

      I’d like to hear this definition of god

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          26 days ago

          Self-referencing Lemmy comment? Not as cool as the self-referencing tweet I saw many years ago

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              26 days ago

              I think the problem with this is that while atheists may believe in those same concepts as christians, we don’t make them to be about some divine being but part of just what we are as humans and animals

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                26 days ago

                You used loosely defined term: “Divine being”. Those things are IMO by the most grownup christians internalized definition of the “divine being”. So this is the same thing and can be replaced.

                I am saying most grown up Christians do not believe in an actual “divine being” (definition: a really powerful, physical, human like creature).

                There is also a concept in Christianity that “God” is a part of every human.

                Let me rephrase your comment in a few ways. Consider by the definition I am talking about: Love,wisdom,… = Concepts = Values = God = Divine being = part of humans.

                “I think the problem with this is while atheists may believe in God, we don’t make them to be about God, we just think God is just inside every human.”

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                “I think the problem with this is while atheists may believe in Love,Wisdom,…, we don’t make them to be about Love,Wisdom,…, we just think Love,Wisdom… is just inside every human.”

                Ignosticism can make things annoying.

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                  26 days ago

                  That would be pretty far from the actual teachings of Christianity, and from their actual holy book that is the very center of the religion.

                  What you’re describing is more like “I was grown in a Christian culture, but don’t really buy the religion”. That’d make the person an atheist who’s christian only culturally.