What I mean is this: like with all technology - nothing is “100%” secure even with the best countermeasures and contingencies. This is how I’ll explain it: akin to how somebody can “virtually” hijack a commercial aircraft by taking control via hacking the software.

The hacker takes control of air traffic flow and compromises the software’s security. Now apply a similar logic to Electronic Vehicles: like someone hacked the EV’s software with mallicious intent on causing vehicular manslaughter or a hit & run framing the driver.

I know EV’s exist: but do YOU deem it scary if you suddenly lost control of it since somebody hacked into the software the EV is using by deliberately wanting to end your life by crashing the vehicle (they’re taking control of the wheel virtually).

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    If it’s connected to the internet then it can be hacked. Though in the literal meaning of the term virtually anything can be hacked. It just means finding an unconventional way to operate something.

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    I am employed by a major Tier 1 electronics supplier to multiple car manufactures. Your question has NOTHING to do with EV’s - we sell the exact same ADAS components for use in EV’s, ICE, and hybrid cars & trucks.

    But to answer your question . . . nothing is 100% hacker proof. All modern cars (ICE, EV’s, hybrid) cars could be hacked . . and any of them with an advanced ADAS system could be modified as you describe to “frame the driver”.

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      19 days ago

      So after receiving a flood of replies saying the same thing . . . this could happen to all modern cars . . you go back and edit the OP to double-down on the EV question?

      Are you a shill for big oil???

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    EVs are different. I depends very, very much on the manufacturer.

    Teslas are nothing more than playtoys. Everything is possible, nothing is secure.

    Other american manufacturers are also thin. Not quite secure.

    European manufacturers have strong traditions with their technology, and they are somewhat similar in this regard. But they are partially leaving these traditions, and there some vulnerabilities start.

    Chinese ones, I don’t really know. But they are new, so it is safe to assume that they still have a lot to learn.

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    All modern cars are vulnerable, not just EVs. If you wanted something “hackerproof”, get an older vehicle with manual transmission and no infotainment center. No drive or brake by wire.

    Bonus: If your battery ever dies, you can push start a manual vehicle!

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    Nothing is hacker proof especially not EVs that are being developed at a breakneck pace to try and beat the competition. When you move fast and break stuff to get your product working well enough to sell, security is low on the priority list. Considering Teslas can’t even detect a fire truck parked on the road, that will give you a clue as to the state of their software.

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    I’m in infosec. At some point you have to stop questioning things to remain a functioning member of society. All the computers, huge or tiny component are technically attack surface.

    But the really scary shit is actually vehicles without a driver in them.