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      Sorry to say, but we’ve moved onto virtual goods to satisfy our crazes nowadays. Try planting those tulips in your homebrew farmcraft simulator clone and watch those profits roll in.

      NFTs = non fungal tulips

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    Global warming doesn’t mean that it will ultimately be very hot where you live. I.e. in europe, the gulf stream might cut off, resulting in much colder climate, I’ve heard.

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      That’s exactly what the meme is about: AMOC collapse is the scientific term for the “Gulf Stream cut off”

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        Oooh, I thought it stood for something like AtoMic bOmb winter Climate. Sorry, I replied too fast!

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    Diversity! Gotta hedge those bets.

    That said amoc collapse probably isn’t happening imminently, and would mostly only cause cooling in Northern Europe from what I remember.

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    I’m at the same latitude as Portugal and in low elevation. We didn’t get above freezing for five weeks straight during part of this winter. We set a couple of record cold temperatures too.

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      Same latitude doesn’t mean same climate though. North America is much colder at the same latitudes as Europe for example. The climate also depends on how far away you live from the ocean and many other factors.

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        Do you know what the AMOC collapse is? It would change the climate of most of Europe. That’s the point of this whole post. Europe could become much colder.

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      You need the rad resistant varieties too. Don’t plant tomatoes, plant tatos. Don’t plant wheat, plant razorgrain.

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    Plant mushrooms and poppies so you can just disassociate your way into the end times.

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    The answer is to plant native plant species. Your local wildlife will Thankyou as they unwillingly prepare to migrate due to climate change.

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    I was quite surprised, when buying seeds for my garden (I need heat tolerant varieties of everything) that some of the ones that were heat tolerant were also cold tolerant, either old varieties or sturdy hybrids.

    Green Magic Broccoli is awesome, and there are lettuces like that. And while our unusual double tap freeze this year wiped out most of my garden, the fennel, which is heat tolerant in my experience, just did not freeze. All those little hairy leaves were completely undamaged. I did not expect that!

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    Even if current weakens it won’t make Europe cold. Main effect will be extreme hot subtropical ocean and stronger hurricanes in Caribbean and south US. Those hotter sea levels will still distribute heat along the main current path. But Europe will get warmer because Atlantic gets warmer without current. Hot water spreads naturally, and hot air temperatures make water warmer. Continuous dropping of Artic ice levels, especially the winter maximums, means very long summer warming periods and very high fall arctic ocean temps, means steady ocean temperatures at UK level.

    AMOC collapse theory is based on accelerated Artic melting. But what’s happening so far, last decade or so, is less freezing happening each year. At the time the theory was developed, global warming was led by Arctic region, warming 3-4x faster than rest of planet. Rest of planet has caught up without maintaining that ratio.

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      AMOC is weakening because of salinity changes, not temperature. There’s still a lot of glacier ice on Greenland that melt and disrupt the current.

      AMOC carries a lot of heat that is not likely to be replaced if it fails. Atmosphere convection doesn’t have the heat capacity, so only logical conclusion is that temperatures in europe must drop. And based on research people have done, it’s not gonna be a small amount.

      If you want a fun math (and a little physics) exercise, we can estimate how much heat AMOC carries from the equator to northern europe, and also try to see how much air it’s heating in the atmosphere. From here it gets a bit more complicated as we have to estimate the the incoming solar radiation and earths radiative cooling. But from there you could compare estimated temperatures with and without AMOC heating.

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        salinity changes, not temperature

        temperature melt driven salinity changes.

        how much heat AMOC carries from the equator to northern europe, and also try to see how much air it’s heating in the atmosphere.

        the physics experiment should include heat in oceans trapped below surface. The different heat flow from 35C Florida oceans in October vs what used to be 28C even at slower flow rate. How a 2 delta melt rate one season could reduce the melt rate next season, how Greenland melt into 10C water instead of 2C water would increase the southward flow rate that increases/maintains the north flow. Salinity normalizes within 3 months. Early summer melt will be low at low winter freeze rates, by theory increasing Carribean north flow, late summer south flow will be warmer.

        Observations since 2016 data paper have been the opposite warming of Europe in winter.

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          Yeah your just missing two key facts here. One, yeah europe is still getting warmer, AMOC hasn’t collapsed. Two, the conditions for maintaining a convective current are significantly easier than starting one. So if AMOC collapses and Greenland ice stops melting, there’s no guarantee AMOC will restart. And even if it does, it could take centuries.

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      Would you happen to have some references reæated the these statements? I would like to read more about recent developments.