• GirthBrooksPLO@lemmy.world
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      2 days ago

      A state the exists as a servant to a citizenry that is not limited to class or ethnicity. A state served as a safeguard to the human rights of all humans within its sovereignty.

      It also serves as a mechanism to efficiently direct resources to human advancement as basic needs are automated.

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        You just described the PRC, and notably not capitalist dictatorships, whose governments don’t represent their people / working class, but the interests of capitalists only.

        You desperately need to get past this poli-sci-intro-level understanding of what states are. States are organizations of force for one class (meaning in Marxism their relationship to production) to oppress another. The USA and other liberal countries are capitalist dictatorship over workers, while the PRC is a worker’s dictatorship over capital.

        Here are some resources:

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        2 days ago

        I meant like can you give an example of one

        Also:

        It also serves as a mechanism to efficiently direct resources to human advancement as basic needs are automated.

        So like China

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                20 hours ago

                Finland lost ww2 as a member of the axis. The finnish army aided in the siege and starvation of Leningrad, which was one of the worst atrocities of ww2.

                After they lost the war, they ceded part of their territory to become an SSR, and were never strong enough again to challenge the eastern bloc.

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                  Did something happen prior to that which may have made Finland less than friendly to the Soviet Union?

                  I wonder why they may not have wanted to ally with the country that just invaded them.

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                    Finland was one of the front lines of the Russian revolution, and the whites used finland as a base of monarchist assaults and intrigues against the world’s first socialist state.

                    The finnish communists then unfortunately lost their civil war, the finns then killed all their communists and made the communist party illegal, and became one of the fascist / reactionary powers in the 30s like nazi germany.

                    Territorial disputes between the whites and reds escalated during the 30s leading to the winter wars, which finland lost, then ww2, which finland also lost.

                    You are again siding with the reactionary side of history.

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            Jesus, at this point why don’t you just admit that by “non-authoritarian” you just mean “white”.

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              You start out in 1954 by saying, “C___k c___k c___k” By 1968 you can’t say “c___k”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, authoritarianism, tiny guy square, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about Chinese bots and free speech, and all these things you’re talking about are totally unproven hypotheticals and a byproduct of them is, Chinese people get treated with inherent suspicion.… “Chinese shills” is much more abstract than even the Russian spy thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “C___k, c___k.”

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                The liberals’ brains suspiciously always stop working the exact moment they’d have to absorb inconvenient facts

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                  The fact that you can think what they said was anything other than asinine non-sequitur tells me all I need to know about what you have behind the eyes.

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                    tells me all I need to know about

                    Hell yeah, all time liberal cope for when you want to retreat while declaring victory

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            Finland? Where despite years of protest by the people, the state continues to buy Israeli weapons and cooperate with the zionist entity in the development of military tech and spyware? The state currently ignoring the wishes of it’s people in order to aid and abet a historically unpopular genocide?

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            The country that was a Nazi ally and didn’t drop the swastika from their air force insignia until 2025? Finland the country currently implementing mass austerity while giving tax cuts to the rich? That Finland?

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              The Finnish Air Force swastika is such an interesting case to me, because the moment you do a google for “Finnish air force swastika”, you are blasted with rationalizations: “predates nazism”, “good luck charm”, “innocent”, “unrelated to Hitler”. You get blasted with rationalizations before you can even see the history: which is that the innocent wholesome chungus dude who brought the swastika was Hermann Göring’s brother in law lol.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_von_Rosen

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                which is that the innocent wholesome chungus dude who brought the swastika was Hermann Göring’s brother in law lol.

                And the fact that he was himself a leading member of the Swedish National Socialist Bloc (Nazi party)