Why i’m supposed to care less about iranian children being killed in war? Is it because their government is evil? Isn’t our government bad too?

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      5 days ago

      Republicans love assigning kids value when it helps strip autonomy from women though.

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    6 days ago

    The true role of government (i.e. power) is to perpetuate itself. Regardless of what ideology it dresses itself with, that is its goal and function. Not to serve the people it governs, not to protect them, not to further their wellbeing, health, and happiness etc. This applies to all governments/governing systems, though there is a spectrum of heavy handedness upon which they exist.

    I’m not saying that’s how it should be and I’m sure there’s an exception or two out there. There are systems that are more permissive/open and subjectively more optimal to live under (I wish I lived under a better one) but the same still applies. Benefits/rights for the public typically need to be forced from the system or the benefit/right itself must somehow ultimately serve and benefit the overall system more and/or aid in its perpetuation.

    So, the answer is, you’re supposed to care about whatever your heart cares about because none of the people in power give a single shit about the children or any of the people they govern. The Iranian government does not care, the US government does not care, the Israeli government does not care, none of the European governments care etc. Giving a fuck about the faceless masses is not their function. Maintaining and increasing their power, control, and wealth is.

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      6 days ago

      Jewish supremacists are just white supremacists. They get special Hitler privileges like the Rhodesians. You seen how they treat Ethiopian Jews.

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    The US market would price them in the low thousands iirc, significantly below their disappeared white girls. Unsure about native americans. What are you going to do about it?

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      Glenn and Eva Dubin bought a child #glennandevadubinboughtachild #bindersfullofwomen #maralago

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    It’s human nature to care about those close to you more than those far from you.

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      It’s estimated that 30-40 children died on Oct 7th. Consider the reaction most (white) Americans had to that event to the 165 schoolchildren killed in Minab recently. Neither Israel nor Iran are meaningfully “closer” to Americans than the other.

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        6 days ago

        Geographically yes, but I was mostly referring social and ideological distance tend to be even more important that geography, especially in modern times.

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          Goal post moving doesn’t sound too rigid now does it? Human nature seems to be awfully flexible in the right hands

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            Saying “people consider them to be closer to those they talk to the most” isn’t moving the goalposts. I’m sorry I didn’t dumb it down enough.

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      Absolutely. It doesnt make it factually correct, but personally. Kid in my area is in ICU after getting attacked with a hammer. Thats so much more worrying to me than school shooters in America.

      Obviously one is worse than the other, but one happened near me and one is an ocean away.

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    6 days ago

    The whole thing is just a distraction from the epstein files. But that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t care about the innocent lives lost.

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      7 days ago

      It’s more about what is not being said: more than 150 iranians kids recently died in a bombing and it was on the news for only two days, no minutes of silence or football teams wearing a badge for the victims, no politicians condemning what happened and sending wishes to the families involved.

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    7 days ago

    see, i find that govts are evil almost everywhere, they do not have the interests of the common people, and children in their mind. You definitely should not care less about the children and people of Iran just because their Govt is oppressive, if you do so, then, logically you should just not care about children almost anywhere, as govts tend to be evil almost everywhere. but we must educate ourselves about the truth, and do our best to propagate it. The truth is that America is a viciously dangerous imperialist nation built on the blood of thousands, and thousands of innocent peoples all over the world, from Cuba to Iran, from Cambodia to Gaza. you must condemn oppression everywhere in the world, and stand, and sympathise with the oppressed peoples of the world.

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      I think it’s a legit question, when there’s a tragedy involving kids it’s always a big deal, politicians yells about it and media coverage goes on for weeks. Personally i know there is no difference between children but i’m genuinely puzzled about what is the answer according to government and media logic.

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        No reasonable person would say there is a difference. Media/government will chalk these kids up to civilian casualties that happen in any war. I hate it, I hate it happened, I hate the excuse I literally just gave, I hate that we are in a war, I hate that we do shitty things overseas, I hate that we do shitty things domestically, I hate that its a discussion. I still don’t think you’re asking a genuine question.