west west bad big bad very bad stalin good lenin good ignore starvation ignore deaths ignore everything just read state and revolution bro
west west bad big bad very bad stalin good lenin good ignore starvation ignore deaths ignore everything just read state and revolution bro
Well, let’s see. Western imperialism is an unbroken phenomenon of the last 600 years that, at its height, dominated 80% of the world’s population and today kills about 800k people in the developing world through trade sanctions alone. Since the fall of the USSR, the USA has made serious attacks on 14 countries, not including Venezuela and Cuba. Russia has attacked 3. China has attacked 0. China hasn’t dropped a bomb in conflict or fired upon an ocean vessel in almost 40 years.
So, sure. All imperialism is bad. But Western imperialism is the imperialism that needs to be resisted because it actually exists.
“China attacked 0”
Vietnam, korea, cambodia, india, mongolia (kinda), tibet, uygurs…
Also not easiest to attack others when you can rather attack your own people :)
Also…did you just leave out the ming, quing and yuan dynasies and once before for show of “no chinese imperialism”?
Edit 2: nvm .ml did not notice that. No wonder why you left it out ;)
You noticed my instance but you didn’t notice that I scoped the claim to only the last 40 years? I explicitly said 40 years.
And are you seriously saying that we need to address the imperialism of dynasties that were already dealt with by the people of China who overthrew them? Maybe we can deal with that when the people of Europe overthrow all of the European empire and return all of the stolen land and wealth and establish people’s governments and dismantle the US, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand.
God what a ridiculous comment.
All imperialism need to be resisted and you start with the worse which is the western imperialism. We just have a minor disagrement
It looks that way, for sure. The problem is that the big difference is in our definition of imperialism. I don’t believe China is engaged in imperialism, I believe it’s engaged in anti-imperialism against the West. I don’t believe Russia is engaged in imperialism, I believe it’s engaged in anti-imperialism against the West. You’ll have to make your case.
Putin literally talk like the Zionists talking about how Ukraine is an fake state and that they are all Russians. The difference is Russia want Ukraine russification and Israel claim Palestinians are just Arab invaders so they want to genocide them.
China claims over Taiwan is imperialistic too.
I think the points on Russia are good and they deserve to be assessed and monitored. I don’t think the case is that strong, but it’s worth arguing and evaluating.
Taiwan is China inhabited by Chinese people. Nearly every country in the world acknowledges this and had acknowledged it since before the revolution. The KMT government in the province of Taiwan stated unequivocally that it was part of China. The imperialism is actually the US getting involved in the civil war and deciding that the KMT should become a proxy of the West. That started back in the 50s. The US protected the KMT fascists while they committed mass murder of Chinese people who wanted to end the civil war and integrate with China. They ran that island under political terror for 40 years and the US protected them militarily and integrated them into the imperial economy. There are US soldiers stationed 4mi off the coast the mainland because the US treats Taiwan as a military base for war with China. China’s position on Taiwan is anti-imperialist
Only 10% of taiwanese want reunification . China is using economical cohersion to try to shift opinions and force reunification. That’s imprerialism. Only taiwanese should decide via a referendum.
That’s a very lopsided definition of imperialism. Of course only 10% want reunification. For 40 years, almost 3 generations, everyone that wanted reunification was imprisoned, tortured, or murdered. That’s why 60% want to retain the status quo - they do not want any punishments from the CPC or from the imperialists. In addition, the imperialists created an entire comprador class by funneling them money and privilege in exchange for their collaboration.
The reality is that as the empire falls, Taiwan’s alignment with the West will be less and less advantageous. Eventually it will make economic sense for the province to reintegrate it’s local government with the national government of China. Both for economics and for national security. It’s just not time yet.