west west bad big bad very bad stalin good lenin good ignore starvation ignore deaths ignore everything just read state and revolution bro
west west bad big bad very bad stalin good lenin good ignore starvation ignore deaths ignore everything just read state and revolution bro
the pope holds the title pontifex maximus, inherited directly from roman imperial religion. one of his other titles is ‘sovereign of the vatican city state’ which literally means king of rome.
the vatican was a temporal kingdom for a thousand years.
unam sanctam declared total papal supremacy over all earthly rulers, and it wasn’t abandoned on theological grounds, it was abandoned because they no longer had the armies to enforce it
yes, arian emperors persecuted christians that’s the point, conflation of imperial power and spiritual authority results in tremendous abuses, something ‘catholics’ were more than happy to continue.
the Vatican is not a temporal kingdom anymore, and the Pope is technically the ruler of the Vatican, thats why he is referred to as that, not the King, just a Ruler.
And Unam Sanctam declares papal supremacy over all earthly rulers because in the Catholic Faith, you should listen to the Pope way more than your earthly ruler and Jesus told us not to worry about what we will eat, wear, drink, etc and the nations of the world, and to focus your desires onto the kingdom of God
The Vatican is again, NOT CURRENTLY, an empire, so it does not have imperial power
so you concede that it was a temporal kingdom, for over a thousand years. the pope still holds all the kingly titles, he just lost the armies to enforce them
this completely confirms my argument- this is exactly the kind of conflation of spiritual authority and temporal authority which the catholic church has used to exterminate its enemies. it just lacks the power to do it these days.
‘not currently an empire’: you are arguing against a point i didn’t make
i accept your concession
when I realize some people will never change their minds when they have become stiff necked but if I sigh and stop, their soul is my burden.
you mistake your own pride for grace, that is prelest
Not until they lost their armies, but until they realized “Hey, unchecked power is intoxicating and war only leads to more war” and spit it out
God does not bless any conflict
this is intense historical revisionism, they did not graciously hand over power, the risorgimento forcibly stripped it.
pius ix called himself a prisoner of the vatican when italian troops took rome in 1870 and the papacy refused to recognize the italian state for sixty years.
the Lateran Treaty with Mussolini was their reconciliation with losing