I think even a small jailtime would be pretty serious. Provided he can’t buy himself out. A fine would be a slap on the wrist*. A scolding is just that - something certain people have learned very early to ignore.
The judge said not to bring something in and they clearly ignored the judge’s directions and it is their job to comply with the judge’s directions. They are not some random person off the street.
I dont disagree, and I think they should face punishment for what they’ve done already… But what’s supposed to happen here? Jail time specifically for bringing a camera? I dont get it.
Yes, they should get jail time for being in contempt of court because they are professionals and should be held to a higher standard than people off the street.
A person off the street should get a warning. Professionals should be expected to follow a judge’s orders.
It’s usually about consequences. At that age, they react to actions much more than to words.
And more generally, they need to learn that words have meaning, too. There’s way too many parents who just lazily shout “KEVIIIN, STOP THAT!” without any sort of follow-up. Not saying you do that though.
Defying a judge’s order, in a way that would allow the mega corporation to identify jurors, and influence them through proxies, is quite serious. They have the motive, means, and opportunity to do so, and would get away with it if they did in all likelihood at most paying a settlement of cash.
The judge made it clear no cameras or recording equipment were allowed in the session and they brought wearable cameras that have facial recognition capabilities. That is the definition of contempt of court.
Sure, sure, everything can be simplified down to people just not “liking” them. That’s what this is all about. That’s what all this is about. We simply don’t like people. No, it’s not the fact that these assholes are the ones behind the 21st century rise of cyber-fascism. We just don’t like 'em. Musk, Bezos, Zuckerberg, yeah they’re all really decent people inside, it’s us that’s the problem. /s
Sick and tired of useless fucking people that style themselves as “rational” and “middle of the road” in a world that is literally starting to threaten my very existence. The time for that shit is long past us, sorry.
But we can’t tell the difference between the “far left” and far right. The one is threatening to fix elections and have a madman in absolute power to use dishonest arguments to eliminate half the population and enslave developing countries, and the other wants not pay more money for less in by private trusts overcharging us, and doesn’t think working people should get screwed without their consent, and wants equal rights for people, and believes in the tenants of the Bill of Rights. /s
Whereas I prefer an organized rules-based justice system over anarchy and vigilantism. Because who knows when you or I might end up being in the “disliked” category?
A rules based system works when every player follows the rules. One side is actively dismantling and abandoning the rules. Do we still keep playing with our hands tied behind our backs?
Scolding without jailtime = slap on wrist.
a small amount of jailtime is a slap on the wrist. A scolding is nothing.
I think even a small jailtime would be pretty serious. Provided he can’t buy himself out. A fine would be a slap on the wrist*. A scolding is just that - something certain people have learned very early to ignore.
* depends on the amount of course
A demand for removal and threat of being held in contempt seems like the appropriate response to bringing a camera in, no matter who you are.
It does matter who they are!
The judge said not to bring something in and they clearly ignored the judge’s directions and it is their job to comply with the judge’s directions. They are not some random person off the street.
I dont disagree, and I think they should face punishment for what they’ve done already… But what’s supposed to happen here? Jail time specifically for bringing a camera? I dont get it.
Yes, they should get jail time for being in contempt of court because they are professionals and should be held to a higher standard than people off the street.
A person off the street should get a warning. Professionals should be expected to follow a judge’s orders.
It’s not even a slap on the wrist.
Yeah exactly. It’s a scolding. Something certain types have learned to ignore in their teens.
My 6-year old is way ahead of the game then.
I’ve got a tough decade ahead of me…
Sorry for unsolicited advice, but:
It’s usually about consequences. At that age, they react to actions much more than to words.
And more generally, they need to learn that words have meaning, too. There’s way too many parents who just lazily shout “KEVIIIN, STOP THAT!” without any sort of follow-up. Not saying you do that though.
You sound like someone who has never experienced court outside of tv or movies.
The courts process is entirely pragmatic. The entire point is to remove all emotions. The judge is not going to presume malice.
The person most at risk here is their council. It they were aware of this stunt they could cause themselves serious damage.
I work with courts routinely. You sound very naive.
This face is doable for the elites if actual consequences occur.
Jailtime for wearing glasses that can record videos in the courtroom?
Maybe the death penalty while you are at it?
Defying a judge’s order, in a way that would allow the mega corporation to identify jurors, and influence them through proxies, is quite serious. They have the motive, means, and opportunity to do so, and would get away with it if they did in all likelihood at most paying a settlement of cash.
The judge made it clear no cameras or recording equipment were allowed in the session and they brought wearable cameras that have facial recognition capabilities. That is the definition of contempt of court.
But don’t you see? We don’t like these particular people, so they should suffer the maximum possible penalties under every circumstance.
If we liked them then punishing them for wearing glasses would of course be a travesty.
Sure, sure, everything can be simplified down to people just not “liking” them. That’s what this is all about. That’s what all this is about. We simply don’t like people. No, it’s not the fact that these assholes are the ones behind the 21st century rise of cyber-fascism. We just don’t like 'em. Musk, Bezos, Zuckerberg, yeah they’re all really decent people inside, it’s us that’s the problem. /s
Sick and tired of useless fucking people that style themselves as “rational” and “middle of the road” in a world that is literally starting to threaten my very existence. The time for that shit is long past us, sorry.
But we can’t tell the difference between the “far left” and far right. The one is threatening to fix elections and have a madman in absolute power to use dishonest arguments to eliminate half the population and enslave developing countries, and the other wants not pay more money for less in by private trusts overcharging us, and doesn’t think working people should get screwed without their consent, and wants equal rights for people, and believes in the tenants of the Bill of Rights. /s
Can’t tell you guys apart!
Whereas I prefer an organized rules-based justice system over anarchy and vigilantism. Because who knows when you or I might end up being in the “disliked” category?
A rules based system works when every player follows the rules. One side is actively dismantling and abandoning the rules. Do we still keep playing with our hands tied behind our backs?