Yeah there’s got to be tens of millions of Americans, maybe hundreds of millions, that have no idea that their government is bombing schools abroad. I bet there’s millions if not tens of millions who don’t even know anything about what ICE is doing in their own country.
Make them see it and maybe they’ll be uncomfortable enough with it to go out and protest.
The difference is that the media used to be independent. Now the media is now almost completely captured by the accomplices, supporters, and puppeteers of these atrocities.
Damn you people are just awful. There are millions of Americans trying to organize against this shit. Just continue to get fucked, please and thank you.
Clearly you didn’t check your notes very well if you think there’s been nothing significant achieved by American citizens against the government over the past 250 years. It’s fun to dunk on the US these days, but you should at least make valid criticisms.
if you think there’s been nothing significant achieved by American citizens against the government over the past 250 years.
As I very clearly said in my comment, I’m specifically talking about US foreign policy (aka imperialism), and historically the best Americans have been able to do is make their military leave after bombing everything to the ground. Maybe you have a different idea but I don’t consider Iraq or Vietnam to be success stories for the American public, and again those are the very best Americans have been able to do.
To no effect if the last checks notes 250 years or US foreign policy are any indication.
As you clearly said in your comment, 250 years or US foreign policy.
There have also been a couple of world wars that the US has assisted in in the past 250 years that I would consider success stories, it wasn’t just Vietnam and Iraq.
Wtf that’s a typo. That should’ve been “250 of US foreign policy.”
There have also been a couple of world wars that the US has assisted in in the past 250 years that I would consider success stories, it wasn’t just Vietnam and Iraq.
How should getting into two particular wars on the other side of the world (the former of which a fight between equally shitty dipshits) convince me that Americans can stop their government from getting into wars on the other side of the world? The fact that you consider US entry into WWI to be a good thing (WWII being an exception, though with reservations) does nothing but prove my point; that was an elites’ war through and through.
Somehow we need to overthrow the government otherwise we’re equally as bad as trump supporters and deserve to die. All the while their leaders enable Trump’s madness
diversionists? I am for Americans to team up and get rid of war criminals including Trump and Bush . Trump will get away with his crimes because of people like you who let politicians get away with their attrocities
oh you are trying?!… oh well I’m sorry, it’s not like you did the same with Iraq over a decade ago… keep trying, we’ll just watch more children get slaughtered while you come around to it
Are you truly so stupid that you think all Americans are to blame for the crazy psychopathic shit our government gets up to?
I’ve voted against all this shit. I’ve protested it. I’ve donated money to relief groups.
You cannot morally hold an entire group of people to the evils committed by their oppressors. This child rapist in charge has a private army assaulting and killing Americans in front of our own homes right now.
If there is any sincerity to your words at all, and you’re not here to divide us, then maybe realize that we’re all in this together, and our enemy is the same fucking enemy.
I’m sorry, is there something specific you wanted me to drop my entire life to go do that will put an end to this shit storm that has been decades in the making? Or are you just being an absolutist piece of shit for no reason?
Also when the Iraq War started I was in middle school, so shame on our preteens for not putting an end to the rise of fascism!
Are you really here to divide natural allies against one another? What else could you believe you’re achieving here?
Just about everyone on Lemmy hates Trump and the GOP. We want them all thrown in jail, and the madness against the world to end.
But you… Brave you. You’re here to divide us. Trump loves people like you. He loves the idea of radicalizing Americans against everyone else. You are doing his work. You are his tool.
The only thing that separates you from the Americans is a plane ticket. Why don’t you go over there and throw your life away trying to assassinate a politician? Do you not care???
Are you living under a fucking rock? This is the most unpopular leadership in the US in living memory. The majority of “Mericans” are against all of this.
what for? so muricans can continue to not give a fuck?
Broadcasting the Vietnam war brought immense pressure against the government and led to tons of rallies and protests.
Make the American people uncomfortable with what is being done in our names. Bring the realities of war home.
Not a single top warmonger was held accountable
Yeah there’s got to be tens of millions of Americans, maybe hundreds of millions, that have no idea that their government is bombing schools abroad. I bet there’s millions if not tens of millions who don’t even know anything about what ICE is doing in their own country.
Make them see it and maybe they’ll be uncomfortable enough with it to go out and protest.
at this point, those who “don’t know” are just faking ignorance or don’t want to know
The difference is that the media used to be independent. Now the media is now almost completely captured by the accomplices, supporters, and puppeteers of these atrocities.
Damn you people are just awful. There are millions of Americans trying to organize against this shit. Just continue to get fucked, please and thank you.
To no effect if the last checks notes 250 years or US foreign policy are any indication.
You’re a tool of Trump is you’re here to divide people against Americans, and Americans against the world.
It’s what he wants. It’s what he needs.
He won’t get it, though. You will fail.
So you have no response to my argument and can only respond with ad hominem. Noted and fuck you.
It’s not as if you really posed an argument. You just vaguely gestured to over a hundred years as if that tells us anything at all.
Feel free to elaborate on more specific points.
Clearly you didn’t check your notes very well if you think there’s been nothing significant achieved by American citizens against the government over the past 250 years. It’s fun to dunk on the US these days, but you should at least make valid criticisms.
As I very clearly said in my comment, I’m specifically talking about US foreign policy (aka imperialism), and historically the best Americans have been able to do is make their military leave after bombing everything to the ground. Maybe you have a different idea but I don’t consider Iraq or Vietnam to be success stories for the American public, and again those are the very best Americans have been able to do.
As you clearly said in your comment, 250 years or US foreign policy.
There have also been a couple of world wars that the US has assisted in in the past 250 years that I would consider success stories, it wasn’t just Vietnam and Iraq.
Wtf that’s a typo. That should’ve been “250 of US foreign policy.”
How should getting into two particular wars on the other side of the world (the former of which a fight between equally shitty dipshits) convince me that Americans can stop their government from getting into wars on the other side of the world? The fact that you consider US entry into WWI to be a good thing (WWII being an exception, though with reservations) does nothing but prove my point; that was an elites’ war through and through.
Somehow we need to overthrow the government otherwise we’re equally as bad as trump supporters and deserve to die. All the while their leaders enable Trump’s madness
Overthrow the wholensystem the constitution, the two party system, the senate and congress
You first. Go ahead. We’ll wait.
I am not american. Stop blaming other for the problem you created
How many of your terrorist presidents did you try to put in jails with massive civil disobedience and protests?
Me personally, or the 300 million other people that have no direct control over this situation?
You have a democracy you have no excuse as a whole population
These attempts to divide us (Americans) against Europe are failing. Fuck you instigators and divisionists.
You got Trump on your side - that guy who raped children, but you won’t turn the American people.
diversionists? I am for Americans to team up and get rid of war criminals including Trump and Bush . Trump will get away with his crimes because of people like you who let politicians get away with their attrocities
oh you are trying?!… oh well I’m sorry, it’s not like you did the same with Iraq over a decade ago… keep trying, we’ll just watch more children get slaughtered while you come around to it
please enjoy your latte in the meantime
Who the fuck is “you”?
Are you truly so stupid that you think all Americans are to blame for the crazy psychopathic shit our government gets up to?
I’ve voted against all this shit. I’ve protested it. I’ve donated money to relief groups.
You cannot morally hold an entire group of people to the evils committed by their oppressors. This child rapist in charge has a private army assaulting and killing Americans in front of our own homes right now.
If there is any sincerity to your words at all, and you’re not here to divide us, then maybe realize that we’re all in this together, and our enemy is the same fucking enemy.
I’m sorry, is there something specific you wanted me to drop my entire life to go do that will put an end to this shit storm that has been decades in the making? Or are you just being an absolutist piece of shit for no reason?
Also when the Iraq War started I was in middle school, so shame on our preteens for not putting an end to the rise of fascism!
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Are you really here to divide natural allies against one another? What else could you believe you’re achieving here?
Just about everyone on Lemmy hates Trump and the GOP. We want them all thrown in jail, and the madness against the world to end.
But you… Brave you. You’re here to divide us. Trump loves people like you. He loves the idea of radicalizing Americans against everyone else. You are doing his work. You are his tool.
The only thing that separates you from the Americans is a plane ticket. Why don’t you go over there and throw your life away trying to assassinate a politician? Do you not care???
Are you suggesting the news should just bury it instead?
Are you living under a fucking rock? This is the most unpopular leadership in the US in living memory. The majority of “Mericans” are against all of this.
Fuck you.
“I think if people see this footage they’ll say, “oh my God that’s horrible,” and then go on eating their dinners.”