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Security is not so good there:
You can say that for anything…
Lineage
Buying new is still screwing yourself over. Buy second hand and take advantage of all the fools thinking they have to upgrade every year.
Most used pixels are oem locked verizon ones. They say unlocked, but they only mean carrier unlocked.
You can check the model number to tell if it’s an OEM. I got my last phone off Swappa which allows you to filter by stuff like model number and condition.
this, especially as graphene seems to support devices outside of when google would
But then I wouldn’t have been able to make this meme.
I didn’t want to give google any money, so I am using a Pixel 6 I got for free at this time. Actually moved from an iPhone 15 and it does not feel slower at all with Graphene OS. I’ll have to upgrade in October when support runs out though, so I’ll be eying used Pixel 9a’s in the summer.
Flagship hardware has been sufficient long term for a while now. I’d still be using my 6 year old phone if it had security updates and I wasn’t getting into privacy and security
I’m glad that GrapheneOS exist, and it’s sad that they are the exception and not the rule.
I think projects like CalyxOS and LineageOS should adopt some feature from GrapheneOS like contact/storage scopes, sandboxed Google Play Services, Network and Sensor toggles.
At the same time, I think GrapheneOS needs to reevaluate their presence in social media.
Google? Motorola https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47214645
Yeah I’m on a 2025 moto, done the best I can with shizuku but it’s trash. I’d leave it at home.
Soon, but not yet! I needed to upgrade, can’t wait until 2027 or whenever. But hoping it’ll be one of their flagships, the new Razr is pretty dope specs wise.
Worth it. Try any Samsung phone with Google’s shit and Samsung’s shit on top: I swear you these one are practically unusable, like you carrying an bloated mini-ad-computer with you. A implanted bug in your teeth or ass would hurt probably less then this. Before I use any of those, I rather use a “dumb” phone again.
Debloating an S10 was removing a long list of shit. I have seen the list only got longer with the newer models indeed. But one can survive, with the right tools.
GrapheneOS seems to feel the same way about Google: https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/116159602850585685
GrapheneOS currently relies on Google for both hardware and security updates. The Motorola thing is encouraging, but they never should have built on Google phones to begin with.
This is the way
I’m about to do the same … question is without the google services is it worth a pro over even an a ?
Considering waiting to see if Motorola releases a GrapheneOs built in Razr I’d consider that. But can’t help but wonder how much they would mess up the core important pieces of Graphene for their overlords who wants AI down our throat
They announced the big RAZR Fold and that future devices would have it at MWC, so mayhaps
But can’t help but wonder how much they would mess up the core important pieces of Graphene for their overlords who wants AI down our throat
also this. Wasn’t moto the one helping with then-illegal wiretaps in like the 90s? I can hardly keep track anymore
To me it wasn’t. I don’t think The non-a Pixels can really justify their price based on the hardware itself.
I tend to just buy a used model, I’ve got the 8 with graphene and no complaints, that said I do very little with my phone these days
I’ve got an 8a which I got on sale when the 9a came out. I tend to keep my phones for 4-5 years, so this should be good for a long while, though I hope the Motorola collab produces something good. I also do little on my phone these days by design. If I could get by without owning one, I’d be thrilled.
Yeah I used to be the guy who did everything on his phone and now I just mostly use it for photos, maps and messaging and I try to be on a laptop when I can
I got a pro because it was heavily discounted at the time. The one thing I sort of appreciated is the display LTPO thing, which enables it to gear all the way down to 1hz to save power.
thing is kinda moot since the 9a and 10a achieve significantly better battery life than the 10 pro (10a uses the prior gen SoC which seems to have better idle power characteristics).
If you want a Pro, go with the 8, 9 if you have to. 8 still has the 2k screen, 10 is a bastardized 1080p screen
8 still has the 2k screen, 10 is a bastardized 1080p screen
Is there really any need for a screen that small having that high of a resolution anyway?
Personally, I like to have a small font with a high density so as much info is on the screen as possible.
Also, if you like to watch Youtube or movies on your device, you’ll notice the difference in resolution.
I got an ‘a’ model and its been totally sufficient at a much lower price. But I guess it depends on how you plan to use it.
I’m running grapheme on a Pixel 9 Pro Fold I got used ~ quite happy with it so far :)
I’ve always wanted a fold, but couldn’t justify the price. I definitely don’t need one, but I want one. Even used on swappa they’re still a bit spendy.
Certainly not a Pixel 10 Pro.
If I could write my own code for the NPU that might be interesting, but they’ve got it locked up like a straight boy’s toilet paper.
Not really, but I got one anyway because I need the storage. I wish I would have gone all the way and got a TB but I couldn’t buy that one in cash in store so I didn’t.
The only advantage of the non-a models is they use a potentially more durable battery that is less prone to pillowing.
The a series have been great to me so far. The specs are usually more than enough for most use cases you’re gonna have for your phone, and the 9a and 10a both have better battery life than the rest of the 9 and 10 series’ respectively.
The a series is substantially cheaper for what is, in my opinion, a totally justifiable Android experience that isn’t gonna be much different than the other models for most people.
HOWEVER, I will say that if you plan on running a lot of apps that need to operate in the background or be constantly on, especially if you play games at the same time on your phone sometimes, the RAM could be too low for your liking and might occasionally lead to an app’s background process freezing for a bit. (e.g. a timer might freeze if the app isn’t actively open)
I still have my CAD $210 Google credit from Google because they throtted my Pixel, and I might let it expire because I want a Fairphone instead.
Has Hunter S Thompson always been in Trailer Park Boys?
Lahey and Hunter S Thompson don’t seem all that different.
The alternate reality where he ended up being a cop instead of a journalist.
He ran for sheriff at one point
Not much longer im sure. I have no reason to believe that they will continue making it possible to un/relock the bootloader considering their push for google certified only android.
This is what I’m afraid of too. I could see apps like fdroid and the ability to install custom roms being taken away within the next year or two. I hope I’m wrong but I don’t have a good feeling. I need Linux phones to be a thing now more than ever.
Wdym by “you could see” as if its not whats already announced to be happening. Fdroid will not cooperate with googles app verification process which means Fdroid will stop working on all google certified devices, meaning everything other than devices with custom ROMs. NewPipe also announced they wont get google verified meaning it will stop working too.
Is the “Nothing” phone product a custom ROM? Sorry if dumb question I’m a bit out of my element.
I need Linux phones to be a thing now more than ever.
This doesn’t happen in a vacuum. If you’re not already, find a project and contribute towards it some way.
I assume you either mean financially or in terms of general support and word of mouth. Trust me, I wish I could be a dev so, so badly, but as interesting as code and computers are, I’m light years away from getting in there and being able to fuck with shit. I love learning about programming, but I’m not the best at actually learning it. lmao
I say, as I sit in a first level computer science class, typing this because I’m totally lost in the actual lecture.
Yes, I said “in some way” because not everyone can contribute code directly. There are other things besides money you can offer to contribute (graphic design, community/brand management, communication, general organizational tasks, forum moderation, etc) but funding is usually the simplest and most necessary.
I never know what to expect from Google. They respect open source efforts to an extent, but play Calvinball with where they draw the line. In any case, Motorola will be an option soon, maybe more. And there are other custom ROMs, albeit not as thorough as Graphene. And for me? They can’t take it away now that I already did it, so I’m good for up to 7 years unless my phone breaks.
If I recall correctly grapheneOS is going to switch to Motorola for their new releases
It’s why I made sure to get my newest phone used, but that comes with the risk of getting a Verizon model (in the US) which can’t be bootloader unlocked. Had to return the first one I got off eBay for that reason, and the second one I made sure to ask the seller where they initially got it from.
It’s wild to me that that’s legal here. Devices should have to be carrier agnostic.
capitalism babyyyyy
I couldn’t do it myself. Ended up going Fairphone and Calyx instead. Just patiently waiting for Calyx to start releasing again.
I’m on the same boat; FP4 + CalyxOS. Do you know have they (Calyx) confirmed anything about the projects future? Last I heard was in around december, and things were quite uncertain back then.
They’re getting closer. Last update was end of Feb. Most of their updates seem to about security stuff I don’t understand, but it’s nice to see they’re working on it.
I hope they’re not ending the project. They were pretty comfortably the best Graphene alternative but you’ll need security updates.
True. The OG GrapheneOS alternative was DivestOS, which actually pulled a lot of features from Graphene. Still so sad that project ended
They’re still working on it. Getting closer and closer to releasing again. No timeline unfortunately though.
