• Destide@feddit.uk
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    7 months ago

    We haven’t even made it to 1 million years, yet it doesn’t matter what you think or how you reassure yourself you’ll be fine, nature will wipe us and adapt. There’s a reason act of nature are attributed to gods

      • Zombie@feddit.uk
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        7 months ago

        Pretty critical to a decent percentage of it though.

        And I don’t know about you but generally I’d like to thrive rather than just survive.

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          7 months ago

          The person I’m responding to said “nature will wipe us and adapt.” That implies that they’re expecting extinction as a result of this.

          Yes, it’ll be harmful to a decent percentage of humanity if the current fails. That’s not even remotely on the same scale of concern as human extinction.

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            6 months ago

            Then you don’t understand what happens when a significant-fraction of the planet’s population loses the ability to grow food in their farms,

            & militarily wages war on all who are “in their way” to live where food WILL grow.

            AMOC shutting-down FORCES WW3, if it hadn’t already-begun before then.

            Even if Europe stays put & just accepts being destroyed, CCP’s long-game will opportunistically wage war against the remnants of the West, for sake of breaking the world to their rule, replacing the US’s rule.

            “The destruction of the West is the midwife of Chinese dominion.”

            Throw Putin & other powerful imperialists into the mix, & the Accelerationist-nihilist-oligarchs, & removing food-security from Europe ( by eradicating the atlantic’s warming of it in winters ) & the militarized-rabies that is produced does have extinction-level consequences.


            there’s another forcing-process underlying all this, too:

            population-saturation-rage.

            It’s been seen in rats & humans.

            In rats, if you have a closed-ecology ( just as we have, with our finite-planet ), & the rats have enough food to keep increasing their population-density,

            they will…

            …until they’re TOO crowded, when suddenly they become crazy, & cannibalistic, until the population’s butchered-down enough, & then they go back to sane ( there’s a hysteresis-loop in the process ).

            The same happens with humans: pressurize the human-population enough, & there’s a “snap” from sanity to nihilism.

            During the end of WW2, it happened in the European front, & the German word for the mind-mode produced is “lustmord”, or deathlust.

            That mis-identifies it, though: it’s MURDER-greed.

            I think that some of the Russians fighting in Ukraine are demonstrating it, perfectly.

            It looks like the mass-shooting-epidemic in the US is demonstrating it perfectly, too.

            So, what happens when entire regions get flipped into that mode, not just scattered individuals?

            Mass-extinction.

            “War becomes the drug.”, as some realized, in Yugoslavia, years ago…

            The feedback-loops amplify everything, until sanity no-longer is any sort of option, & the result of THAT population’s enforcing its “answer” looks completely different from what we’re used-to living among.

            Sorry to be blunt, but the less we know objectivity, the greater the % of the population who’ll be destroyed by our ignoring/denying ( including mine: this is global viability, not ideological )

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