The Fediverse is growing and we have decently successful platforms like Lemmy and Mastodon. What else would you like to see?
Any big tech platform not yet replaced or maybe something new altogether? What are we missing?
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More Lemmy, PieFed, & Mbin communities/magazines with more content, especially niche ones!
Speaking of which, I’m gonna go ahead and shamelessly plug !micromobility@lemmy.world for anyone interested in bikes, e-bikes, skateboards, scooters, motorcycles, heelies, etc.
AmITheAsshole was always fun…
Oh, and hamsters! There’s not a fediverse hamster community that compares to the hamster subreddits yet
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Monetization broker for a video service. Let’s give Youtube a run for the money.
Hosted gaming system, card games, board games, tabletop simulator style. Maybe Minecraft java, built around self hostable servers.
E2E Encryption Communication, maybe a tightly integrated reticulum host.
Dedicated news system focused on free journalism (hard with AI and propaganda I know)
Shore up Pixelfed and Loops or Competition for them.
Some form of integrated system that ties all this stuff together, like a dashboard with all your different things. Maybe something like the homeassistant dashboard but for all your fedi services.
That would be great!
I think it’d be fun to have a kalshi/polymarket clone, but with internet points instead of money.
eBay/marketplace/etsy alternative.
I believe Flohmarkt is a fediverse alternative.
Would be even better if these things didn’t use completely stupid names!! They’re not clever, or hip, or even fun. Flohmarkt sounds like I’d be too embarrassed to share what it is.
Names are subjective. “Youtube” makes no sense if you discard all the grab that it has now in retrospective. “Craiglist” is even worse.
YouTube always made sense because “tube” is old slang for TV.
Yeah, I guess I’m old enough to remember TVs being referred to a such hah 😅
…this is the first time in the entire Fediverse that I feel not-that-old 👀
Also known as the “boob tube” with “boob” being a synonym for “idiot”. I’m not that old…
Flohmarket is just the name of the software, which as another said, is the German word for flea market. I suspect the creator is German.
Anyone who self-hosts their own flohmarket instance can call their instance whatever they want.
Is just German for flea market.
Yeah I see that now after looking it up. OK that makes more sense. Still not a great alt for North America yet
If it was named something else illogical itd work, like weinerschnitzel selling no schnitzel
You can name your flohmarkt instance whatever you want though.
That’s good to know, I see is avail on Yunohost, too
Interesting … It looks pretty active. A few dozen instances, mainly in Germany. This has real potential.
I do think that would be neat but wonder how payments might be integrated from a technical perspective. I also wonder if there are any regulations that would get in the way or if it would even apply to something like that.
Edit: also, if people buy something then the instance goes offline. That would be another issue to figure out.
The issue in the US with accepting payments on behalf of sellers is that you have to then collect sales tax which is different for every locality. Then you also have to issue tax forms to the sellers for sales over a certain amount. Which leaves us with sellers collecting payments on their own which means using something like PayPal or Bitcoin. You would just have to have people build trust through reviews and hope for the best. You could base the service in a random other country so that you wouldn’t have a bunch of regulations to deal with and leave all the tax stuff up to the buyers and sellers. You’d probably run into issues with accepting credit cards though.
What about something like wero integration? Isn’t that supposed to be peer-to-peer?
I get that the trust is another issue though. What happens when a person gets stiffed? Who’s guaranteeing the purchase or vetting sellers?
Yeah I’ve thought about the question there of like is it acceptable then for those managing the instance to collect a percentage of transactions in the case where they provide payment management, arbitration, etc. Because if someone is a bad actor on Lemmy or mastadon you just ban them or the instance, but in the case of money changing hands that’s more difficult to administer
I’d love to see that wonderful interoperability we were all promised. It should be possible to have one identity/account that’s connected to multiple services. I should be able to log in once, post some thoughts on Mastodon, share a photo on Pixelfed, and comment on a PeerTube video. Some services have tried to combine various formats with a little success, but it has been very limited, and generally broken.
Any city/county/state/federal (or your countrys equivalent) running their own fediverse servers (especially Mastodon) instead of simply having a twitter handle.
You know how that would end up: massively slow server for 3 million a day hosted at politician X’s friend.
I’m not saying they need to physically host the metal, but the addresses need to be Fediverse addresses. Like how they current do email. I have no idea if my mayors email is outlook or Gmail or whatever, the important part is it’s mayor@city.gov.
I’m just kidding, it would be great :)
I don’t know that at all. Public services where I’m at are pretty well run.
The Netherlands has removed many departments form shitter and moved them to Mastodon.
Not so sure I want them to self host, just based on their track record for security, but I would like them to be more visible.
Also news outlets could benefit from doing this instead of us having to rely on repost automation.
I would also love to see peertube become more competitive to YouTube. It would probably need some kind of revenue sharing model or donation integration for that though.
I agree about the self hosted part. That part isn’t important. But an @city.mastodon server is better than an @city on twitter username. The important part is getting them off proprietary platforms.
Like how they all do email and websites now.
Yep. That’s what I meant. I want them to come to the fediverse but I don’t necessarily want the city’s IT admin to manage it between fighting laser printers.
A self-hosted instance has a big advantage: only those working on that admin can have a user. So if you see, p.e., @Emmanuel.macron@gov.fr you know it’s the real account and not a fake one.
Agreed. I don’t think I explained myself clearly enough: I want them to have a presence online. Among the reasons being exactly what you’re pointing out. However, I think at least for smaller cities with very little staff, it’s not realistic to ask them to literally self-host it (as in having a server on-prem running it). I would be fine with them outsourcing it or cloud-hosting it under their own domain. A potential solution for the small ones could be something like a state-level hosted service where municipalities can sign up and get their own accounts, for example. That would work even for something like Rittman, Ohio pop. 6,131.
Probably someone needs to start a service aimed at them, like a mastodon instance called localgov.social or something
They can certainly self-host, it doesn’t mean you have to join those instances. Them making those instances would be good for adoption.
Absolutely. The organizations that have the most to gain and the most capability to manage instances are
- local governments,
- news publishers/journalists, and
- Universities
These are groups that have unique publishing and legal mandates that already have the IT departments and adequate sway to compel users. They already host email and websites, and regularly come into conflict with corporate messaging platforms.
MMORPG!
An idle fediverse mmo would be cool, like aqworlds where it was just a chatroom with set dressing basically
Bitcraft claims to have open sourced its code.
But is it federated via activitypub?
Its a starting point
I’d like to see better interoperability, more bridges to other platforms, and more adoption, especially from people who claim to hate X or Elon Musk so much.
I don’t have anything in particular myself. I pretty much get everything I need out of a forum. I guess a good discord option. One that does all the realtime needs the way a forum works for non realtime.
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I would love to see an alternative for google maps where openstreetmap is not enough. So a system where you can post reviews, photos, menus of locations etc.
That would be neat. It would also be really nice to have some kind of community notes section where you can info on parking, best times to go, etc. Especially for tourist destinations.
OpenStreetMap is frankly about as good as a crowdsourced map can possibly be.
And it’s always improving. Mobile apps like CoMaps let you add business information. There are also apps like Every Door, MapComolete, or SCEE, which particularly emphasize updating OSM on the go.
There are apps for adding photos, such as Mapilary or Panoramax, which are not built into OSM, but built on top of it.
There have been a few attempts at FOSS review projects, like lib.reviews or mangrove.reviews, although it is tricky to reach critical mass.
Each of these are huge organizational challenges and data management challenges separately. Without selling ads or mining data, it’s hard for me to imagine a single project that does evey part and does it well.
There are apps for adding photos, such as Mapilary
just in case you don’t know, mapillary is a facebook project
There have been a few attempts at FOSS review projects, like lib.reviews or mangrove.reviews, although it is tricky to reach critical mass.
I think it’s even impossible if not accessible in a popular OSM map app
Thanks, I did not realize. I just did a quick search because I remembered an app but couldn’t remember the name. Must be something else.
Edit: Maybe it was mapillary after all. They were acquired by Meta in 2020. A better option looks to be KartaView.
kartaview is not better either. they are hypocrite liars: https://github.com/osmandapp/OsmAnd/issues/4942
panoramax thought, that is promising.
I couldn’t quite follow all that. TLDR?
they started out as openstreetcam. they turned out to be not open, in source code and licensing of uploaded content. their app couldn’t even be open source, as it used closed source components (including facebook data mining components), that they did not want to remove. they have got renamed to kartaview and belong to a crappy company. they also don’t value user privacy, shown partly by using facebook (among other) tracking code both on the website and in the app.
at first, they turned out they don’t value privacy of its users, but with an openstreetmap adjacent project that is essential. most OSM editors and users are here partly for the privacy properties of the services and accompanying apps, and like that we can’t honestly recommend something to others that we ourselves wouldn’t use.
openstreetcam privacy policy said they share user data with third parties for analysis of the users. that alone shows how they treat their users, but their website contained facebook tracking technology among others, which is significantly worse for reasons I will not detail here.
in the openstreetmap ecosystem another thing that is important is openness and free software. because that’s how you can know how is your data handled, or how you can continue development if the original devs abandoned the project. all significant android osm apps are available on the F-droid store. F-droid vets all apps it accepts, including all updates to them, and closed source components are not allowed in any of them, because what they do can not be audited.
openstreetcam (at some point renamed to kartaview) was not willing to remove the unauditable components for f-droid inclusion. it was more important for them to collect enormous amounts of user data for facebook and other data brokers.then the open source app completely stopped being open source. they did not officially stopped development, they just started to forget uploading the source code changes. they even tried to argue other points with “but our app is open source!” when it could not be built from source for several years already. that shows they only used open as a marketing term.
later it turned out the app was owned by a crappy company, and that they take all rights, irrevocable, for all images uploaded.
probably other things also happened I don’t remember now.
CoMaps (which uses openstreetmaps) has the option of adding a link to a menu for restaurants, though I don’t think it has reviews.
You can add websites to businesses on OSM too. It’s not that common, unfortunately
There is apparently an incredible amount of manipulation and legal fights happening around these reviews on Google maps, so that is probably a minefield any independent open-source developer should avoid.
I want all the twitter clones to implement a better system for how they create posts on the reddit clones than use a random hashtag.
Like, even just give them a setting to enable it instead of by default.
None of them ever understand that they’re spamming us, it needs fixed at a system level
Trouble is, first came Mastodon, then came Mastodon’s culture, then came Lemmy.
Mastodon is 60+% of the Fediverse, mastodon.social alone is 20+% of the Fediverse.
Except for Redditors who have escaped to Lemmy and those Japanese and Koreans who discovered Misskey first, literally every single last Fediverse newbie thinks that the Fediverse equals Mastodon. More than half of them still believe that. As in, they don’t even understand that their content may end up someplace that isn’t Mastodon or that isn’t a Twitter clone.
More users.
Less memes. I feel like that is all this site is now…
the bigger it gets, the more the memes will become everything.
agreed though. way too many memes, not enough legit information anymore.
