• titanicx@lemmy.zip
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    3 days ago

    How about this, we root for the Islamic regime of Iran to fall. And we root for Trump to have a massive heart attack and shit himself once again on TV while walking across the stage or maybe down the stairs of Air Force One so he’s remembered as the jackass that died on TV.

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        I’m sure it’ll turn into a right wing conspiracy where he didn’t actually die or was staged and he’s living with Epstein in Israel

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      Can we go for something more Biblical? Maybe struck by lightning immediately after, in an outdoor public speech, denying having any involvement with Epstein?

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      Why do you want the Islamic regime of Iran to fall and what do you expect takes it’s place?

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          Fall from within is one thing. Being toppled externally is another entirely.

          Governments don’t actually get toppled by mobs of protesters storming the palace gates. Machine guns are quite effective at preventing that. They topple when some other individual or faction convinces enough key players in the country that the new guys are a better option. The protesters only storm the gates when the army decides to look the other way. And the army only decides to look the other way when there’s some viable alternative to the existing government. No high-ranking general with a retirement to worry about wants to see the state they serve collapse into complete anarchy.

          The point of this is that internal revolutions tend to be good for their people. A revolutionary movement can only successfully topple a government when they can make a good case to a lot of powerful people that they can competently manage the gears of state.

          But imposed from without? You can invade a place and stick someone on the throne, but they won’t have any legitimacy. And that power and legitimacy vacuum leads to sectarian violence and civil wars. Or, as in the case of the Shah, the foreign-imposed leader maintains their position through shear force and barbarity.

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        3 days ago

        Homie, they fucking hang people in the street as part of public executions. Do I really need to continue or is this the hill we die on?

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          That’s Saudi Arabia, the ally of USA and Israel. Iran are prudes. They even tried to assassinate Trump in Butler, PA to get him to stop talking about Hannibal Lectar.

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          Who are you to police another country in another part of the world? You shoot citizens in the street for looking at officers funny and have thrown out decades of progress to make a few guys filthy rich. You don’t get a say in the affairs of others.

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            Full disclosure I don’t agree with the US doing any of this, I’m Canadian and even Carneys supporting of the US right now means I’ll never vote for him again. That being said, I 100% support a grassroots overthrow by Iranians of their own fucking repressive government. Something they’ve been working on by the past few months in massive protests. I stand with the people of Iran, not fucking religious lunatics in their government.