Where is your second amendment Americans, you are all cowards for allowing this to continue
I love Lemmy because of the way people of voting on comments on this thread. People are sharing their true feelings instead of the brainwashed safe for Reddit opinions that people have been conditioned to share online.
G g g guys… Don’t fight back, that’s what he wants. Just get a shovel and dig a hole in your backyard and bury yourself in it. It’s the only way to stop the violence…
It is what he wants, you goddamn dumbass.
Saw this posted somewhere. Not my words, but I and many Americans I know agree with this:
"To everyone outside the US who’s angry at Americans right now, especially those of us who hate Trump and feel trapped: Please understand this. We do not elect our president the way you think we do. Millions of us voted against him. Millions of us are terrified of the damage being done. We are not cheering this on. We are living inside it. If you’re wondering why we don’t just “revolt like the French” or “fix it” here is the reality of being an American right now:
Our system is rigid, slow, and stacked in ways that make “just revolt” a fantasy. We don’t have a culture where mass strikes shut the country down overnight. We don’t have a centralized government you can pressure in one city. We have fifty states, militarized policing, surveillance, debt, and jobs tied to health insurance. For many people, losing a job for protesting means losing healthcare and housing.
France is smaller than Texas. Organizing a “national” revolt across 3.8 million square miles (9.8 million square km) and 330 million people isn’t just difficult, it’s logistically close to impossible. That doesn’t mean we’re complacent. It means we’re constrained. Anger at US power is fair. Fear of US decisions is fair. But blaming every American, especially those who are fighting, exhausted, and scared alongside you, misses the mark.
We’re not watching this from the sidelines. We’re stuck in the same burning house. Just closer to the fire."
Edit: I believe credit goes to Jason Gervase, ASL Pinnacle
Basically you say you are fucked and your hands are tied. The pedo-president and his folks can do whatever they want now. Thanks, that’s nice.
But either way, in my opinion the anger is still justified. You could and should have fought more before the elections to try and convince Trump voters to not vote for him.
Damn that had to have hurt like hell. He just walked it off like a champ.
Could have easily lost an eye or been killed.
Not just a paintball. A pepper spray round.
Kill agents on sight
Wishing for someones death is horrible. You can do better.
With that logic we should be much more aware of the life of animals we kill on an industrial scale similar as the Holocaust. Just because of the taste (we do not need animal based nutrition).
I’d argue the life of a peaceful cow is worth more than that of a hateful Nazi that wants people of certain mindset or skin-color dead or detained.
So why should we care more about the life of nazis that want to make life for everyone (but Nazis) worse (also considering e.g. Climate-Change). We already have too many people, we don’t need scum around…
We should make KAOS a thing.
Protestors need to start arming themselves.
That is by definition not a protest.
Look up the black panthers bud. Nothing wrong with armed protesters.
You might want to invest in a dictionary in case you decide to open your mouth and shit out something this stupid in the future.
a strong complaint expressing disagreement, disapproval, or opposition:
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make a protest - Protests have been made by many people who would be affected by the proposed changes.
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protest about - A formal protest was made by the German team about their disqualification from the relay final.
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protest against - Conservation groups have united in protest against the planned new road.
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in protest - Several members walked out of the meeting in protest.
See Also: peaceful protest
Instigating an armed conflict is a protest as much as surgery is a dialogue. That said, I think some armed resistance to the ICE would be warranted, but let’s not pretend words can mean whatever you want them to.
Do you need me to point out that nowhere does it say “if you are armed its not a protest” or can we all just agree that your previous statement was full of shit and that you will remember this definition in the future?
A protest is a complaint.
A threat is not a complaint, it’s a threat.
Self-defense is not a threat, and fuck you for trying to pretend otherwise.
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At which point you now give them free rein to just switch to auto and hose down the crowd.
Welcome to the joys of protesting. Unless you are going geared up for a riot, all protests are inherently “peaceful protests” where you are standing with your hands tied behind your back waiting for the blow. Because if you fight back any more than what is socially acceptable (often times pushing against riot shields), you will die. And so will everyone around you. And the people down the street. And that couple who were unfortunate enough to live above the bodega on 5th street.
How did compliance work out for that lady in her car?
They don’t need a fucking reason.
We are past the point where being “one of the good ones” makes you less likely to get killed. Time to be a hard target instead of a victim.
And that was one lady just like it is always one person. It is not cops and their fat white kid friends indiscriminately firing upon crowds of civilians like it is naptime for Miss Smart’s kindergarten class. Which is what we see during some of the more historic massacres.
I know you’re scared. We all are. But if you are taking a gun to a protest you are not just putting your own life in danger but EVERY single life at that protest. That is why the more experienced organizers keep an eye out for that and will grab your ass and drag you into an alley if they realize you are packing (and not an undercover cop).
I strongly encourage talking to those organizers. I am not going to discuss it on lemmy but rest assured that we are all aware of this.
Your unwillingness to fight for you community is embarrassing. Stay home.
Its OK that you are fucking coward, that is your right, but its time for you to get the fuck out of the way of the people who are actually going to change this shit.
You talk really tough for someone who hasn’t done anything about it. If you have, it surely would have caught some headlines, and you probably wouldn’t be alive to post about it. We’d probably all be commenting on a video of you getting taken out by 20x as many cops. And if you were in a crowd of people, likely many would be taken out with you.
So if you do decide to put your money where your mouth is, just be sure to do it far away from peaceful protestors and any bystanders.
Until then, stop calling people cowards, you coward.
Your canned lines are tired. And yes, you’re a coward.
Nice deflection. You’re a coward too, the difference between you and me is that you’re pretending to be better than everyone else.
Canned lines? You haven’t done shit. And if you do, make sure you don’t get other people killed who didn’t agree to be part of it. Canned lines.
You’re right though, I am tired. Peace out dude.
If you think that lady in her car is the worst that can happen and that we no longer need to show any restraint, then you have a profound lack of knowledge of history. If a group of citizens start raiding federal offices, the military are going to get involved in defence of the federal offices.
And maybe that’s okay, honestly, maybe we do need to make a stand when things like this happen, but be fucking prepared and be honest about what’s about to happen because it will not be pretty.
I don’t know why you’re being downvoted. People really can’t handle uncomfortable truths. They’ve never seen war, don’t know what it’s like. It probably hasn’t clicked for them yet that they don’t get to respawn when they die. They don’t understand the unfathomable amount of pain that comes with getting shot. They don’t comprehend how irrevocable any act of violence is, or the responsibility that comes with permanently altering the course of history.
I mean sure, something needs to be done, but these people don’t stand a chance against a militarized police force with modern equipment and a virtually unlimited budget.
They don’t understand the level of coordination it would take, the organization and the discipline required. The manpower, the combat experience, the heavy equipment. Small arms wouldn’t cut it. They’re not prepared. They don’t understand what sort of preparation that sort of thing would require.
These are the same idiots who were saying before the election, “it’s better if trump wins because it will hasten the revolution.” Damn fools, there is no revolution. Not one that can succeed. The time to stop this was on election day, and we failed, because idiots like these thought call of duty was real life.
And then they downvote you for telling them war isn’t pretty. Pathetic.
To be honest I don’t think all of the downvotes are legitimate, I’m sure the pro-Russian and pro-Chinese are tipping the scales in these discussions to promote violence whenever possible.
I am telling this for months. A couple of months ago I was downvoted to abyss because “no we need to be peaceful because that’s how you solve problems”. No fucker. Do you think all people in Germany between 1935-1945 were silent? Protesters were killed en masse and literally nothing changed.
Learn from the past. Arm yourself. You outnumber them easily. They will stop shooting at you, when they look into 100 armed people.
Good luck arming yourself against a trillion dollar worth army
Weird, cause I only see three guys in this video.
Every ice agent should be a dead ice agent.
Wishing for someones death is horrible. You can do better.
Nah. Go fuck yourself. Every ice agent should be hunted.
while im 100% against ICE, Trump and the deportations, you can see the guy grabbing the ICE agent’s gun… thats not a smart move
Yup he got what he asked for, but Lemmy don’t like that.
