in the conclusion, they explicitly allow for the possibility that it may be proven that plants are conscious.
Do they? Please provide a quote, I’m not seeing anything like that in the conclusion.
Here’s the other thing: even if you are correct (which is not likely based on evidence), consuming plants instead of meat still reduces suffering. Eating plants directly is more efficient than eating animals that eat plants.
even if you are correct (which is not likely based on evidence), consuming plants instead of meat still reduces suffering. Eating plants directly is more efficient than eating animals that eat plants.
this has nothing to do with what I e been saying at all, and I am correct, as you explained in your other comment
This doesn’t prove your claim, which you have failed to substantiate at all.
As I said, it’s the same cancerous, selfish inability to acknowledge what is most likely true that theists exhibit.
Do you believe a purple unicorn lives on the moon? I don’t. We have never observed a unicorn of any color, on earth or on the moon. Similarly, we have never observed plant consciousness, despite many attempts. Does that prove there is not a purple unicorn on the moon? No. But if you tell me there is without evidence, without knowing yourself, you’re lying to me. Lies cost lives.
In conclusion, we feel we must speak forcefully: plant neurobiologists have become serial speculationists. The ratio of speculation to data in their oeuvre is astronomically high. If they want to form a sensible hypothesis and then test it with real experiments, that is fine, but the prolific speculating and fantasizing need to stop.
If they want to form a sensible hypothesis and then test it with real experiments, that is fine, but the prolific speculating and fantasizing need to stop.
The speculators haven’t done this. They have asserted, with zero evidence, that plants can think. Meanwhile, the study I linked shows many attempts to observe plants expressing consciousness with no positive results. Support your claims with evidence or shut the fuck up, lives are at stake.
Do they? Please provide a quote, I’m not seeing anything like that in the conclusion.
Here’s the other thing: even if you are correct (which is not likely based on evidence), consuming plants instead of meat still reduces suffering. Eating plants directly is more efficient than eating animals that eat plants.
this has nothing to do with what I e been saying at all, and I am correct, as you explained in your other comment
Quote me. I said no such thing. I posed a hypothetical. Dumb fuck.
This doesn’t prove your claim, which you have failed to substantiate at all.
As I said, it’s the same cancerous, selfish inability to acknowledge what is most likely true that theists exhibit.
Do you believe a purple unicorn lives on the moon? I don’t. We have never observed a unicorn of any color, on earth or on the moon. Similarly, we have never observed plant consciousness, despite many attempts. Does that prove there is not a purple unicorn on the moon? No. But if you tell me there is without evidence, without knowing yourself, you’re lying to me. Lies cost lives.
i have never said plants think or are conscious. I’m saying you can’t prove they don’t, and you helpfully explained why what I said is true.
No, I helpfully explained why your dumbassery is wrong and harmful.
Plants can’t think. This is not controversial. Grow up.
you already showed why this claim can’t be proven
You can’t read?
The speculators haven’t done this. They have asserted, with zero evidence, that plants can think. Meanwhile, the study I linked shows many attempts to observe plants expressing consciousness with no positive results. Support your claims with evidence or shut the fuck up, lives are at stake.
they’re allowing that it still could be proven, but objecting to the theories they showed in this paper
Plants have no brains with which to think. We don’t accept claims without sufficient evidence. Please stop distorting reality. That is a deadly habit.
it seems like you know that what I’ve been saying is true, but you just don’t like that I’m right.
It seems like you’re a troll. Fuck off forever, bye.
bye
calling me names doesn’t change the truth