

I’m glad they did this because it finally gave me the push to move all my stuff to Codeberg.


I’m glad they did this because it finally gave me the push to move all my stuff to Codeberg.


It’s really weird to me how literally anything they say or do is immediately interpreted in the worst possible way here, on Lemmy.
Let’s get real for a second.
Is there a bot problem on the Internet in general? That’s a resounding “yes”.
Do we want to do something about it?
According to OP - no, not at all.
I mean, if OP considers malicious everything that Spez listed, the only remaining course of action is inaction and hoping for the best.


by your claim, the field can have any series of numbers, that there is no way to determine if it is accurate, and the law that this was done to appease is bad, as in not able to obtain its expected result. and so the data is useless.
Yeah, so this tells me you have no clue what you’re actually talking about.
You don’t even stop to think for a second that maybe some enterprise setting requires such fields. Maybe they have software that populates account information based on their HR systems’ data, auto-creating user accounts? Maybe they can find a DoB field useful? Zero clue, zero thought, just “I don’t use it, therefore it’s useless”.
No point in continuing this discussion, I guess.


Again: what authority do you have to decide which data fields are useful, and which aren’t?
How do you personally differentiate between “useful” and “useless”? Is it: “I have no need for it therefore it needs to be removed”, by any chance?


Why hasn’t the discussion started when realName was introduced?
Someone may find these data points useful, for whatever reason. No point in being angry at a date field, mate.


because it’s too late at that point, which is the whole point and issue!
A PR is when the discussion is supposed to happen. It’s an open source project, nothing happens “too late” to discuss. You see that change in the pull request, you can start moaning about it.
if the field is necessary, but the data is useless, then it shouldn’t be there
Who defines what’s “useless”? You? On what authority?


So, how about we start freaking out when someone starts making these fields required, instead of right away?


However, once this field exists, it enables later reference and/or mandatory dependencies
Yeah, this is a devious plan that has been going on for years, when they added the realName field!
The human is smarter
So, you want to hire hundreds of thousands of moderators? The human is smarter, yeah, but not the bot doing the detection.
If they tune them, you use the methods and knowledge learned and adapt
You say it like “tuning them” is a magic trick, where they wave their hands a couple of times, and now the detection algorithms are smarter than the bots writing the comments. SOMEONE has to go in, and figure out the maths to make the detection algorithms smarter and better at detecting. That takes time and resources.
You’re also forgetting that “tuning them” works both ways. The people writing the shit-post bots also work on improving their tools, to make them indistinguishable from human posts.
Also: how can you tall that “lol, kys noob” is written by a human, or by a bot? The vast majority of comments online are these short shit-comments.
I’m just saddened by the state of things and how much better everybody else is at things I always thought the left was good at
Think of it this way: there are billions of types of online interactions where detection is either impossible (an image or link post) or extremely difficult (general conversation where sometimes even humans don’t sound like humans due to slang/education/etc).
Not only that, you’d end up with a “tug of war” where the existence of such detectors would power the improvement of the bots, which would require the improvement of the detector (which is always more difficult).
And the other option is an anonymous token that defines you as a human user. Which is simpler and cheaper to implement?


I thought the one in the OP was a breaded chicken breast…
I mean, requiring FaceID is a horrible idea, but there maybe might be a better alternative (I’m talking about the general idea of a “proof of humanity” online, not specifically using this solution).
The fact of the matter is that bots are a massive issue online. When russia got sanctioned and cut off from the western Internet, r/Conservative went radio silent for a couple of days - until they figured out how to VPN through the Netherlands. There are whole communities where bots discuss bot-posted content. And I have no doubt in my mind that it will also happen on Lemmy as soon as there’s even a hint of profit* to be found.
* “profit” not as in “monetary gain”, but as “any kind of gain, be it money, influence, propaganda, chaos”, etc., etc.


You could try connecting an external keyboard/mouse to your main computer.
As for the backup one - how much space do you have left? You’d need between 4 and 6 GB to download a Linux ISO and around 2 MB for Rufus with which you’d build a bootable “live USB”.
If you don’t have even that much, grab WinDirStat to check what exactly is taking up so much space - maybe you can remove some of it.


Weird. I was just setting up three Linux laptops and was asked if I wanted to turn these features on every time.


Weird. I was just setting up three Linux laptops and was asked if I wanted to turn these features on every time.


Holy shit, people really lose any rationality when it comes to AI, don’t they?
Mozilla mentioned integrating AI, got flak for it, reversed gears. Everything is optional and opt-in now.
And yet, a third of comments here are crying about Big Bad Firefox AI coming to eat them at night.


It’s not on by default.


but it still seems to include e.g. all URLs which could leak all your search queries
Which one? Interaction data? It literally cannot, or it would’ve been stated there.
If anything, this makes me feel like it confirms Mozilla does sell data it shouldn’t.
Yes, I know. That’s because you don’t really understand what you’re reading here.
These are not just “pinky promise” lists. These are legally binding lists of data types being shared and the data sub-processors. If you find anything incorrect there, you basically get free money in a lawsuit.


I would love for Mozilla to fix this, which is why I try to be pragmatic and concrete. But so far, they don’t seem willing to do so.
Here’s the problem - people don’t care if the information is there or not. Microsoft has been disclosing their required telemetry data for years and people still thing it’s an invasion of their privacy.
Take you for example - I gave you a source, you checked 1/3rd of the information in it and started complaining.
Why am I assuming you didn’t bother to read the whole thing? Because you’re claiming that “technical data” is too obscure of a term to figure out what it is. “Interaction Data”, in your words, “can be literally a keylogger”, right? Well, it’s very clearly defined in the table:
Click counts, impression data, attribution data, how many searches performed, time on page, ad and sponsored tile clicks.
Which of these would you consider to be “literally a keylogger”, hmm?
The problem is that we’ll never know because there’s no control group. Everybody has them, even fetuses still in the womb. You would have to build bunkers with perfect air filtering, and then go through, like, four generations of humans to breed microplastics-free specimen, which you could then use a the control group for the rest… Only them never leaving the bunker would already invalidate the tests… So, yeah…