verification is just a fancy marketing word for ‘Digital Tagging’. We are witnessing the death of the anonymous internet in real-time. First, they track your clicks, then they demand your ID under the ‘anti-bot’ excuse By 2026, the digital grid will be so tight that ‘Human’ and ‘User ID’ will be inseparable. Glad I jumped ship to the Fediverse before the cage doors locked. This is exactly why I’ve been documenting this transition from the 90s privacy to the 2026 surveillance grid the ‘Exodus’ has truly begun
We are witnessing the death of the anonymous internet in real-time.
Fedi is still here :3
if u want to see how deep the rabbit hole goes regarding the end of anonymous life check out chapter 17 in my book… i’d love to get ur thoughts on it since u clearly see whats comin https://play.google.com/store/books/details?id=-0_GEQAAQBAJ
yo karl u hit the nail on the head fr… spez is just the beginnin. we r literally watchin the 2026 digital cage being built right now. i actually spent a lot of time writin about this exact ‘death of anonymity’ in my book final exodus. its crazy how what we thought was fiction is becomin our daily reality. fedi is the last lifeboat left tbh
These waves usually turn out better quality users than the lulls when we’re otherwise mostly getting the people who’ve been permabanned from Reddit. So, hopefully we get some good ones!
Hey. I’m high quality and I came from a permaban!
Personally offended !
Jk.
You’re banned!
All the bots will just come to Fedi. I’ve already seen some.
My guy. Most threads and articles here are posted by bots.
Depends on the instance.
5 more users. I assume that’s the number of users still stupid enough to still be using reddit. I profoundly apologize to the stupid community who are not using reddit.
I profoundly apologize to the stupid community who are not using reddit.
apology accepted
I wouldn’t say users are stupid to still be using Reddit. There’s still alot more activity there and alot of subs still haven’t switched over yet. But if they start requiring identity verification, I think we’ll see alot more switching. Right now, I do both to get the best of both worlds. If I have to give them my identity, they get cut out.
Ooh, yay! I just swung over myself after my eighth account permaban (with no link to alleged offending comment) within 24 hours of posting about how one of the admins is in regular contact with Ghislaine Maxwell while she’s in prison🤔
You have a link to this administrator of Reddit being in contact with Maxwell? Inquiring minds want to know
A Google search later and here we are:
Haven’t read this thread specifically but I see it’s four years old. Plenty of goings on by the Internet sleuths since then. Believe /r/Epstein is where a lot of where I read was? May have to do some archive digging, since my accounts have been fully nuked just for mentioning this information, with absolutely no links provided by myself. Can’t imagine the threads are all surviving it as well.
Posts in the sub are a non-starter. The maxwellhill thing was debunked when it was pointed out that the account was active when Ghislaine was attending well publicized events. You guys are falling for right wing bullshit.
It’s funny how they don’t show you the comment.
I just got permabanned within a minute or so of posting something like “The only way to get Trump out of office is for 100,000 people to drag him out.”. Appeal denied even though I said it was hyperbole.
I still like the sheer volume of content on Reddit but they are getting worse all the time.
I don’t think this should be an hyperbole. Get to work, now.
The only good Trump is a dead Trump. Wonder if I will get banned for saying that? Curious since I just migrated here from reddit after getting banned for expressing such sentiments.
only the diet-reddit lemmy instances might do that; but i would like to believe that not even they are that red pilled.
I got banned from here as well for saying verified facts with evidence. Its all the admins discretion in the end, and they’re political.
Have you considered a more reasonable instance? I used to be on .world myself. Used to…
Check their modlog, they were banned for being a bigot.
they’ll go to piefed; there’s nothing to get ready for.
Lemmy, piefed, kbin, all valid and handy, tbh.
Piefed does seem like a great alternative, but I’m in the “too good to be true” phase.
It has some anti-features that make it worse IMO, like the social credit score “feature,” not to mention the right-wing and anti-communist views of the lead dev.
That’s the neat part. The Fediverse doesn’t eat itself; more activity on Piefed is more activity on Lemmy.
Piefed is here talking to you right now. It’s all the same shit
This is pretty uncontroversial as far as reddit announcements go. They aren’t requiring identity verification.
Spez announces they won’t tolerate competing astroturfing, only shareholder-approved bots will remain.
Getting rid of bots on reddit wojld be as easy as image recognition the same chicks every fucking day aross a million subreddits.
Bots suck but so does age verification
Isnt everyone using it paying an API cost monthly? It should basically already be verified, otherwise why the fuck should anyone pay shit?
Let’s be honest. The fediverse will also have a huge bot problem soon. We kind of have this right now, but if you look a little bit further in the future, when we maybe come a little bit more relevant, spammers and scammers and all those propagandists will also come here. I suspect that they’re already here.
Currently we have no protection at all. You can setup an instance, federate and start with your federated vote manipulation. Our human moderators can’t keep up with bots posting spam to their community and we are totally helpless against LLM bots pushing some agenda.
Yup. Conspiracy theories aside, the bot problem is an actual hard problem to solve.
Team Fortress 2 players reliving their PTSD trauma with your comment
Agree, hard indeed. Any solution will have problems. False positives. False negatves. Violating privacy.
So far, maybe Lemmy flew under the radar and it’s a nice enough place. But I don’t see how that can continue longterm.
It is sad to me. Anything nice eventually gets ruined.
There’s a boiling point to almost everything, and lemmy trying to be an umbrella of communities rather than topic-specific, good old forums is the crux. When you narrow completely down and focus on one main, maybe 2 adjacent topics, and the rest is piled into off-topic board - it’s stupidly easy to ID bots.
we have tools like defederating any instance filled with bots but we definitely need more
How would that help? Bots will just move to another instance. Maybe yours.
I mean it literally helps to defederate an instance overrun by bots because that means no one is taking care of banning them and manually review sign-ups, so you defend your instance of that spam/slop.
The best part is that defederation is not final so when that instance is finally healthy again it can be federated.
I think people here are missing the difference between reddit and any instance on the fediverse. Every instance admin has the power to control their federation and it is in their best interest to review sign-ups to a certain degree. Unlike reddit there is no urge to fill the site with ‘users’ to inflate numbers and sell ads.
I honestly only read comments simping spez.
Noooooooooooo
Quickly! Everyone start massposting shit about Hegel, Kierkegaard, and sharing 3-hour breadtube essays about leftism to drive off the impending brainrot lol
Personally, I’d be happy to see more users, particularly in the niche groups which are often dead as a dead thing. I don’t want the bots tho, and I’m thinking that gen AI has probably made the fuckers pretty plausible and hard to identify.
Yeah, the hornyposts have been great for my ability to think about anything other than politics for 5 fucking minutes. I’d like more variety here.
Do the masses not like discussing Kierkegaard?
The whole text sounds racist AF
Can you explain? I read it and didn’t see anything racist.
Like fuck AI, but the general vibe is that bots are anthropomorphic and we should exclude them by the same reasons we previously were excluding black folks.
LLMs are not people, they do not possess will, they do not possess sapience. Not wanting to deal with LLM output is in no way like excluding a group of people based on arbitrary characteristics.
They do not, but you can still be a racist towards them. It’s not about llms, it’s about you
The general vibe is that LLMs are glorified magic 8 balls that tell you what you want to hear. Honestly I’d rather listen to a magic 8 ball over an AI because it’ll actually disagree with you.
You cant be racist towards an object or a piece of tech BECAUSE THEY ARENT SENTIENT NOR ARE THEY A RACE.
I think the point they’re trying to make is that racism is a state of mind, and opening oneself up to being racist against a non-human or imaginary thing can open the floodgates to more “real” forms of racism against fellow humans.
Basically the difference between anthropomorphizing bots while one expresses their dislike for interacting with them vs. expressing one’s dislike of being forced to interact with a machine that is made to feel like interacting with a person but isn’t.
I’m not sure how I feel about this sentiment I’ve described, but it’s one I’m open to arguments on since as a white dude I come into it with a mountain of privilege that likely blinds my view of things
BECAUSE THEY ARENT SENTIENT NOR ARE THEY A RACE.
They are not, but you still can be racist towards them
Explain how you can be racist towards something inherently raceless and non-sentient? That’s like saying you can be racist towards a fucking furby.
Racism is never about empirical properties of its object. The object is always constructed and reflects the racist’s fantasies
I find it interesting that, as you point out, his comment makes zero sense but still gets upvotes, and then as he clarifies he’s saying it’s racist against chatbots, then people are unambiguously “oh hell no”
Some people upvote at a baseless accusation of racism without actually actually seeing racism or getting clarification that they may have missed… That’s a bit sad…
And none of them will know about fediverse girl
Do you mean Anubis?
That uses POW which wastes time and CPU, however it does essentially nothing to stop bots, it just makes them slower.
You need to detect the fingerprints of things like Selenium and Multilogin as well as the fingerprint of the whole browser or device to truly stop them.
