• 0 Posts
  • 91 Comments
Joined 3 years ago
cake
Cake day: June 11th, 2023

help-circle


  • A “silky mom” is one whose kids have all the sleek, modern gadgets, fancy clothes, etc. They hate dirt, and just want to watch their screens. They eat nothing but processed foods. They use fabric softener and dryer sheets. They are primarily concerned with keeping up appearances.

    A “crunchy mom” is one whose kids have mostly wooden toys, hand-me-down clothes. You’ll find them jumping in mud puddles and eating wild raspberries. They line-dry their clothes. They are primarily concerned with the happiness of everyone around them.

    “Crunchy” is (usually) not a pejorative, and even if it were, a “crunchy mom” wouldn’t concern themselves with such meaningless criticism.

    https://www.youtube.com/@ReallyVeryCrunchy





  • Both. Sometimes a third.

    The morning one is the long one, the central part of the 20-minute shit/shower/shave trifecta. Then there is the afternoon one, to rinse off the work-grime before starting the evening. If outdoor activities are on the evening itinerary, a third one: rinse off dust, sweat, urushiol oil (poison ivy), check for ticks, stretch sore muscles, etc.

    But on the rare, lazy saturday? Fuck it.




  • (Caveat: IANAL)

    The specific property, no, probably not.

    However, a child is owed “support” from both parents, normally in the form of direct care. Where one parent is not providing direct care, they can be ordered to provide financial support to the parent who is providing direct care.

    If Alex and Maya have come to an agreement where Alex will provide that mansion in lieu if direct support or financial support, Maya has a claim to the property. If Alex is subject to a support order that includes providing the mansion to Maya, Maya has a claim. Barring a scenario including the house as support, Alex will owe money to caregiver Maya (or Maya will owe money to caregiver Alex) but will not owe the house itself.





  • Exactly.

    LLMs give you exactly that. The student you describe should fail.

    However, the reverse scenario is also possible. You can have perfect function, but fail entirely due to form: spelling, punctuation, etc. This student has demonstrated mastery of argument construction, reasoning. This student should succeed, but will also fail to meet the common core standards.



    1. “Common Core” != “Grading Rubric”. Common Core is not the entity judging the work. That evaluation is conducted by the teacher and to the teacher’s own standards. Training on Common Core and other methodologies may influence those standards, but it is still the teacher who is determining their application.

    2. From your link:

    CCSS.ELA-Literacy.W.11-12.1.c Use words, phrases, and clauses as well as varied syntax to link the major sections of the text, create cohesion, and clarify the relationships between claim(s) and reasons, between reasons and evidence, and between claim(s) and counterclaims.

    CCSS.ELA-Literacy.W.11-12.1.d Establish and maintain a formal style and objective tone while attending to the norms and conventions of the discipline in which they are writing.

    CCSS.ELA-Literacy.W.11-12.2.e Establish and maintain a formal style and objective tone while attending to the norms and conventions of the discipline in which they are writing.

    CCSS.ELA-Literacy.W.11-12.3.d Use precise words and phrases, telling details, and sensory language to convey a vivid picture of the experiences, events, setting, and/or characters.

    All of these are criteria that justify attacking a paper on the basis of spelling, punctuation, syntax, structure, form. While the specific words “spelling” and “punctuation” are absent, their meaning is present.

    1. Also from your own link:

    CCSS.ELA-Literacy.W.11-12.6 Use technology, including the Internet, to produce, publish, and update individual or shared writing products in response to ongoing feedback, including new arguments or information.

    LLMs are a “technology”, are they not? Does Common Core not promote the use of technological aid “to produce … writing products”?

    ore standards for ELA classes at the end of HS as the “goal” of what students are supposed to be able to do, it’s all about analysis and constructing arguments. There’s not a single mention of spelling or punctuation in there.


  • But students are supposed to write weak essays.

    That is the concept I am rejecting.

    It’s a necessary step to how you learn to form stronger arguments and strengthen your own patterns of thought.

    I reject that such mediocrity is a necessary step.

    The essential skill is critical thought. The analysis and validation of the claims made in the essay. This argument is weak, that argument is bullshit, this conclusion is unsupported, that one stretches the truth. Those are the skills the student needs to write a good essay, and they aren’t getting them by writing what they know to be mediocre crap. They are getting them by analyzing other works. Learning to identify legitimate arguments from bald-faced lies. Learning to research claims. These are the heart of critical thinking, and these skills are wasted when “mediocre” is the expectation. AI can provide a mountain of shit papers full of hallucinated claims, ready and waiting for a student to rip apart. That’s exactly what this generation of students is going to need to be able to do now that the world is completely buried in AI slop.

    English teachers grade grammar, spelling, punctuation. Most pay little attention to the actual content. Weak papers with excellent grammar receive high marks, while strong, well-sourced, well supported papers are are heavily docked over spelling and punctuation. The purpose of language “arts” classes is not the function of language, but the form. “Language arts” are the arts of pedantry, and the antithesis of critical thought. And all of that pedantry has become obsolete in the past few years, just like cursive ~25 years ago. AI-era students will recover thousands of hours of time wasted on pointless machine work, and be able to turn it toward vastly more useful human studies.


  • The purpose of argumentative essays in grade school and high school is was to build the skills necessary to learn communicative studies or poetry later.

    FTFY.

    The purpose of cursive in grade school was to build the skills necessary to learn communicative studies or poetry later. Then we realized that cursive wasn’t actually needed for this purpose. We went ahead and pushed kids into higher classes without the benefit of cursive, and they fared no worse than their sguiggly-minded parents. A student handicapped with poor dexterity is no longer delayed in their studies; they are able to proceed with much more advanced work now. Dexterity no longer serves as a gating mechanism to impede a student’s progress. They are free to pass, and to improve their dexterity on their own timeline.

    Spelling and grammar no longer requires mastery in grade school. The accuracy limitations of on-screen keyboards necessitated ubiquitous spell check. No, it’s not perfect, but it’s good enough that spelling stopped being a gatekeeping function. Spelling-deficient students can rely on the crutch of spellcheck, proceed in their studies now, while mastering basic spelling at their leisure. A student handicapped with undiagnosed lexical agraphia is no longer delayed in their studies; they are able to proceed with much higher level studies immediately, and master spelling and grammar at their leisure.

    AI is excellent at forming the structure of essays. It is terrible at reasoning. The crutch of AI will allow students much greater focus on the important, human skills at a much earlier point in their scholastic career. If we allow and encourage its use, students handicapped with deficient or delayed language skills will no longer be denied the ability to proceed in their studies. They can progress with much more advanced work at a much younger age. Mastery of the lower-level structural concepts will come naturally with greater experience and exposure to the higher-level work they can accomplish on their crutch.


  • Yes, it used to be that the putting of words on paper/screen was the “work” of an essay.

    What I am saying is that the actual work of writing is the thought behind it. The effort of research, of developing an opinion, of forming the foundation of a complex argument. The High School English teacher’s obsessions with word count and strict adherence to grammatical rules are not “work”. They are mindless drivel. We churned out generations of morons with excellent grammar but no ability to actually think.

    That will no longer suffice. Any half-assed AI can spit out a thousand words on any topic you care to name, all with perfect spelling and grammar that would have made a 1990’s AP English teacher cream themselves. And without any idea of what it was actually writing.

    Don’t teach kids to do the work of machines. Teach them to be poets. Teach them how to research. Teach them how to think, not how to imitate the mindless behavior of an essay-writing AI.


  • build reading/media comprehension skills and learning how to self-reflect and organize your thoughts to synthesize new information.

    Yeah. That’s all “research, logic, and rhetoric”. None is “spelling grammar, structure, format”. You’re disagreeing with me, while repeating exactly my point.

    Did you even read my comment?