how does that work? He’s psycho, so his musical output is restrained by his insanity.
He always made the same slop, so I don’t think he has a creative block, more of an organisational block, so why would trying to exploit his kid make him any more productive?
I hate this view, it’s not true, at all. The majority of great musicians are normal people. This is a concept people made up to justify liking shitty people. I’ve personally interacted with a ton of my favorite bands and outside of a few assholes they are all cool normal people. Music is a rational thing, there are formulas for what does and does not work, you don’t need to be insane to do cool and innovative shit with music. If you look at most of the people that were insane they burned out, died, or ended up in obscurity. They’re also usually credit stealing narcissists, like Jim Morrisson, they don’t actually provide anything to the music other than a face and personality.
yeah, y’all have been describing us as broken and putting us in freak shows for ages. now you pay us to make you look like you have class when you get entertainment. it’s really quite amusing from the musician’s end.
EDIT : To be clear, I am not saying “his musical output is caused by/limited by/due to” his insanity. I mean his mental illness makes his productivity less efficient to the point where there is less output.
So if he’s being affected by mental health, it doesn’t matter if it’s his music or his kid’s music, neither is getting completed because he’s not going to get anything done, because mental health problems will impede his productivity.
Nick Cave is staunchly pro-Israel, in the way edgy right-wing dudes are. Whether sufficiently staunchly to drop everything, fly to the US and open for Sheeran on his tour remains to be seen.
I’m a massive Nick Cave fan and had to look this up. I found this, which is a pair of letters from him.
It struck me while writing this how much more powerful a statement you could make if you were to go to Israel and tell the press and the Israeli people how you feel about their current regime, then do a concert on the understanding that the purpose of your music was to speak to the Israeli people’s better angels. That would have a much greater effect than a boycott.
I dunno. I can see his point but I’m also disappointed? It’s definitely not “staunchly pro-Israel”. He’s just made a decision to play there and is using that to justify it. I don’t know if showing up and telling people in person is better than boycotting and showing them what they’re missing. If I were in his position I’d boycott.
I kind of get it though, in my experience prejudices die by exposure, they flourish in the dark. I don’t see how an artistic performance boycott does anything but further close them off to other points of view.
The thing is that the BDS movement specifically asked for a cultural and academic boycott of Israel as well. The same thing happened with Apartheid-era South Africa.
I could understand his point in isolation, but there’s a larger social context here. Israelis (and Palestinians) don’t, I think, need awareness raised, they already know what’s going on there.
Kid Rock or Boy George might be able to open for Ed, lol
Someone call Kanye West
Kanye is busy with his own BPD-delusional tours.
Kanye is too busy trying to exploit North into a music career
how does that work? He’s psycho, so his musical output is restrained by his insanity.
He always made the same slop, so I don’t think he has a creative block, more of an organisational block, so why would trying to exploit his kid make him any more productive?
insanity does not do that to music. trust me if you meet a musician that’s right in the head they make boring music.
I hate this view, it’s not true, at all. The majority of great musicians are normal people. This is a concept people made up to justify liking shitty people. I’ve personally interacted with a ton of my favorite bands and outside of a few assholes they are all cool normal people. Music is a rational thing, there are formulas for what does and does not work, you don’t need to be insane to do cool and innovative shit with music. If you look at most of the people that were insane they burned out, died, or ended up in obscurity. They’re also usually credit stealing narcissists, like Jim Morrisson, they don’t actually provide anything to the music other than a face and personality.
I’m sorry they weren’t able to be themselves around you
I’m sorry you think that you have to be broken in order to be creative, that’s sad as fuck.
yeah, y’all have been describing us as broken and putting us in freak shows for ages. now you pay us to make you look like you have class when you get entertainment. it’s really quite amusing from the musician’s end.
updated :
Bipolar disorder. Not making excuses, but
No. That’s not how manic episodes work.
Lots of bipolar people manages to live their lives without ever becoming nazis and supporting Trump though.
You are really doing a disservice to bipolar people by using his illness as an explanation of him being a massive asshole.
Literally has nothing to do with what I said.
Nick Cave is staunchly pro-Israel, in the way edgy right-wing dudes are. Whether sufficiently staunchly to drop everything, fly to the US and open for Sheeran on his tour remains to be seen.
WTF!
There’s a 35% chance I’m going to punch him in the face for this.
I’m a massive Nick Cave fan and had to look this up. I found this, which is a pair of letters from him.
I dunno. I can see his point but I’m also disappointed? It’s definitely not “staunchly pro-Israel”. He’s just made a decision to play there and is using that to justify it. I don’t know if showing up and telling people in person is better than boycotting and showing them what they’re missing. If I were in his position I’d boycott.
I kind of get it though, in my experience prejudices die by exposure, they flourish in the dark. I don’t see how an artistic performance boycott does anything but further close them off to other points of view.
The thing is that the BDS movement specifically asked for a cultural and academic boycott of Israel as well. The same thing happened with Apartheid-era South Africa.
I could understand his point in isolation, but there’s a larger social context here. Israelis (and Palestinians) don’t, I think, need awareness raised, they already know what’s going on there.
and TED NUGENT the draft dodger.