Preventing unauthorised filming in private has been a problem for a long time now, that existed before Meta Ray-Ben did.
If you’re on a public beach, I can film your wife’s butt and your kid and choose to do so either secretly or visibly. All at my sole discretion. I know that this comment will be downvoted to oblivion because people don’t like this fact, but it’s a fact nonetheless.
It’s also a fact that people can stop you, illegal or not, whether you like it or not. You also act as though a visible, private camera the same as a slealth camera that uploads to a cloud. They are different, and so people will feel different about them.
You seem more focused on trying to get away with stealth recording than if it’s correct to do so, especially when someone argues about the ethics.
Did you know that on the public beach, I can look at your wife’s butt, or your kids, with my very own eyes? Why does recording it cause you any greater harm than looking with my eyes?
Is it because it involves technology? Is it because it implies I’m too interested in what I see, so it makes you feel uncomfortable?
Yes because it involves technology, no not because it implies interest. It’s wrong because technology lets you share what you see with others. People trust you to see butts on a beach because they know who exactly can see the butts, andcan personally deal with creeps. I wouldn’t go to a beach where my butt could end up online without my being abletostop it (and I mean a focused shot, not a general beach picture).
The only thing you’ve said is wrong is the sharing of pictures/video.
So, the problem is not the glasses, it’s not taking video with them, it’s sharing that video with others. So maybe chill out about the stuff that isn’t the actual problem.
(Not that the act of sharing is actually going to harm the subject of the video, anyway)
Some countries have the legal principle of “right to one’s own image”, and maybe you want that. But everyone here advocating violence seem to have forgotten how to do democracy.
If you use a Meta smartglass, the “sharing” is out of your control.
It’s actually going to be interesting when a smartglass wearer has to explain a judge they didn’t know it was recording and uploading pictures or videos.
Explaining to the judge in what court case? When some of the keyboard warriors here are in the dock for assault? Or for some imagined crime of “recording a video of me”?
I actually don’t think Meta breaks gdpr that badly, and I know for a fact they don’t upload video all the time, because it’s not physically possible.
But everyone here advocating violence seem to have forgotten how to do democracy.
A lot of changes in democracies happen following violent events. Violence is unfortunately one of the very few effective method to raise attention on an issue.
If you believe that the ends always justify the means you have no argument against political violence used against you except that the ends are wrong… so we’re back to square one, and fighting in the street over every political disagreement. Congrats.
It’s a Meta product so the vibes are bad, so everything to do with it is wrong and evil. Anyone who says anything contrary to “this is wrong and evil” is wrong and evil.
If the camera is hidden, how can you prevent unauthorized filming? Restroom, changing rooms, even schools or children playgrounds, beaches?
Sure, a beach is public, so that authorizes me to film your wife’s butt or your kid? That’s not how it works.
Preventing unauthorised filming in private has been a problem for a long time now, that existed before Meta Ray-Ben did.
If you’re on a public beach, I can film your wife’s butt and your kid and choose to do so either secretly or visibly. All at my sole discretion. I know that this comment will be downvoted to oblivion because people don’t like this fact, but it’s a fact nonetheless.
No it’s not. In Germany for example purposely filming someone’s butt without their consent is considered sexual harassement.
It’s also a fact that people can stop you, illegal or not, whether you like it or not. You also act as though a visible, private camera the same as a slealth camera that uploads to a cloud. They are different, and so people will feel different about them.
You seem more focused on trying to get away with stealth recording than if it’s correct to do so, especially when someone argues about the ethics.
Did you know that on the public beach, I can look at your wife’s butt, or your kids, with my very own eyes? Why does recording it cause you any greater harm than looking with my eyes?
Is it because it involves technology? Is it because it implies I’m too interested in what I see, so it makes you feel uncomfortable?
Yes because it involves technology, no not because it implies interest. It’s wrong because technology lets you share what you see with others. People trust you to see butts on a beach because they know who exactly can see the butts, andcan personally deal with creeps. I wouldn’t go to a beach where my butt could end up online without my being abletostop it (and I mean a focused shot, not a general beach picture).
The only thing you’ve said is wrong is the sharing of pictures/video.
So, the problem is not the glasses, it’s not taking video with them, it’s sharing that video with others. So maybe chill out about the stuff that isn’t the actual problem.
(Not that the act of sharing is actually going to harm the subject of the video, anyway)
Some countries have the legal principle of “right to one’s own image”, and maybe you want that. But everyone here advocating violence seem to have forgotten how to do democracy.
If you use a Meta smartglass, the “sharing” is out of your control.
It’s actually going to be interesting when a smartglass wearer has to explain a judge they didn’t know it was recording and uploading pictures or videos.
Explaining to the judge in what court case? When some of the keyboard warriors here are in the dock for assault? Or for some imagined crime of “recording a video of me”?
I actually don’t think Meta breaks gdpr that badly, and I know for a fact they don’t upload video all the time, because it’s not physically possible.
A lot of changes in democracies happen following violent events. Violence is unfortunately one of the very few effective method to raise attention on an issue.
The law hardly change spontaneously.
If you believe that the ends always justify the means you have no argument against political violence used against you except that the ends are wrong… so we’re back to square one, and fighting in the street over every political disagreement. Congrats.
In this case, the ratio is probably of 100:1 or 1000:1 people in my favor. So if it comes down that, see you outside!
You think over 99% of people turning up for the meta glasses street brawl are in favour of punching people for wearing the wrong glasses?
Finally someone who can think. Thank you. None of these people’s arguments so far have been rational.
It’s a Meta product so the vibes are bad, so everything to do with it is wrong and evil. Anyone who says anything contrary to “this is wrong and evil” is wrong and evil.