• Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPEnglish
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      2 months ago

      Feargus Urquhart is a Scottish-American dual citizen born and raised in Scotland. I’d say that qualifies Fallout as partly British 😉

  • Salvo@aussie.zoneEnglish
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    2 months ago

    Australians did the Seppo Nuclear Apocalypse first.

    That was the whole premise behind MadMax 2.

  • Linda R@nord.pubEnglish
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    2 months ago

    Ukrainian sci-fi: Everybody just fucking dies. Nobody’s fault, really. And there’s meaningless but meaningful love. Also, it also functions as a very long music video for the song “Voyage Voyage”, whose lyrics the author of the manuscript has clearly seen translated. (Referring here to “U Are the Universe”, which I liked a lot!)

      • BilSabab@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        2 months ago

        Alien 4 of all things is actually pretty accurate adaptation of Metal Hurlant wacky aesthetics.

      • xav@programming.devEnglish
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        2 months ago

        Well France did “Le Voyage Dans la Lune” in1892 (the first ever SF movie) and more recently “Fifth Element” and “Mars Express”.

        • BilSabab@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          2 months ago

          Um, hate to remind you but Fifth Element came out 29 years ago. Fucking Valerian adaptation is almost 10 years old already.

          • Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            2 months ago

            The Valerian movie is one of those movie I just can’t get over. Like, it retroactively changed my understanding of bad chemistry so fundamentally that I genuinely get confused when people say that about other movies. It shifted my ability to tell in the way adding a thousand individual 0s to a data set shifts the average.

            At the same time, it every single other facet of the movie is so astoundingly good that I can’t forget it, the concepts it brings are just too deep and rich in flavor to not want more from it.

            In a perfect world we’d get a spoof of the production of the movie where the director is some aged Playboy uncle to Dane Dehaan and has spent a fortune and called in decades worth of favors to orchestrate the production of this movie just to put his cronically unfuckable nephew in direct contact with the actress he’s obsessed with in hopes of reliving his youthful conquests vicariously through this kid who embodies all of the distasteful behaviors of that era without any of the charisma and passé that made it acceptable at the time.

            Fuck… I need to watch that movie again…

            • teslekova@lemmy.mlEnglish
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              2 months ago

              It was probably meant for people who want to fuck their sister, because those two had immense sibling energy. Unfortunately they also had immense asexual energy.

            • Rumo161@feddit.orgEnglish
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              2 months ago

              The main character is a boy who tells the story of the movie to his big sister while swinging is can of mountain dew. He is to young to understand romantic relationships so he just copies the stuff he has seen on the old VHS of his das/uncle. Thats why the trash props are all plastic tubes and papermash.

              Its a tribute to the young fans of scyfi who grew up in this weird male view of what outer space would be confronted with the view of the sisters friends and mothers of those boys who liked the stories as well but spun a wider more based Version of the caged male fantasy of “different”.

              Trust me watch this shit in acid. It will blow your mind “anders” (as the german kids like to say ;))

            • BilSabab@lemmy.worldEnglish
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              2 months ago

              Dehaan was kinda hot shit back when he was cast even though it was instant miscast (he was in that weird Metallica movie among other things and he did well in A Cure for Wellness) - but by the time the movie came out he was as cold as two day shit. So that’s on Besson. Miles Teller or Alden Ehrenreich would’ve been better choices because they have punchable faces and a shit eating grins which is integral part of early Valerian - that dude was obnoxious.

              funny thing is that Bruce Willis in Fifth Element is actually quite accurate latter day jaded Valerian - so it is not like Besson couldn’t figure out how to do that character but i guess EuropaCorp had softened his brains quite a bit.

            • 卩卄卂丂乇@lemmy.8th.worldEnglish
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              2 months ago

              Read the comics (Bande dessinée). And it should have been named Laureline. Valérian can manage but Laureline is the true heroine.

          • A_norny_mousse@piefed.zipEnglish
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            2 months ago

            hate to remind you but Fifth Element came out 29 years ago.

            Still more than 100 years more recent than the other one. And, incidentally, a time I still remember well. When Fifth Element came out, that is.

        • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.netEnglish
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          2 months ago

          Yes, Mars Express was actually really good but it’s as oversexed as most of French cinema (except for comedies which consist mostly of shouting).

      • Mirshe@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        1 month ago

        At the same time, go watch Heavy Metal. The soundtrack alone is well worth it.

    • hansolo@lemmy.todayEnglish
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      2 months ago

      And the American version was The Day After (1983)

      Entirely different movies with the same premise. The Day After messed me up as a kid. But Threads haunts me as an adult.

      • BilSabab@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        2 months ago

        The Day After gets way more fucked up when you watch the roundtable discussion that took place after its premiere. Now that’s some parallel reality mental prolapse.

          • BilSabab@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            2 months ago

            its on youtube. and it is quite fucked up. with folks like that end of the world is probably the best case scenario.

            as an addon - there was also BBC After Dark episode about Chornobyl which was “white people feeling bad about famine in Africa” level of white savior bullshit - their arrogance is actively repulsive.

  • Tudsamfa@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 months ago

    I didn’t know Wall-E was Japanese… well, his parts could be made in Japan.

    Domo arigato, Mr Roboto?

  • ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 months ago

    British sci-fi is more likely one of these:

    • Dysfunctional but mysterious magical traveler and his witless sidekicks stumble through space and time having campy adventures.
    • Dysfunctional band of renegades rush through space having campy adventures fighting a heartless evil empire with witty retorts.
    • Dysfunctional group of misfits stumble through space skewering each other with witty retorts and having campy adventures while trying to find their way home.

    There’s definitely a pattern there.

    • Hjalmar@feddit.nuEnglish
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      2 months ago

      Aniara is amazing! Like really, it might not be quite a typical sci-fi story but it is really good. Also so confusing, Harry Martinsson makes up soo many words.

      Absolutely worth reading!

      Also, it does not rhyme. He uses a verity different meter throughout the book, few of which rhyme. A lot is free verse. Also the first 29 songs were apparently written under trance. It is truly a very, very strange book.

      For a hint at what it’s like, I’d like to quote the second song (so no spoilers here, this is the beginning of the book)

      Goldonder Aniara shuts, the siren gives the wail for field-egression by the known routine
      and then the gyrospinner sets in towing
      the goldonder upward to the zenith light, where
      magnetrinos blocking field-intensity
      soon signal level-zero and field-release occurs.
      […]

      Read the rest of the masterpiece at the internet archives!

      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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        2 months ago

        It looks like if James Joyce lived in a slow-rotating space colony.

        I can appreciate prose like that, but I personally don’t like reading “challenging” things when I’m reading for pleasure.

    • Hjalmar@feddit.nuEnglish
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      2 months ago

      I didn’t know about Arne goes to space but now I desperately want to see it… That trailer is just wonderfully goofy

  • Berlinblades@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 months ago

    Judge Dredd, Threads, Lifeforce(Kind of) certainly supports the UK sci fi Idea. French scifi is a little more like EVERYONE ,good and Bad is turned on at all times. American sci fi is spot in,i can’t think of any counter evidence.

  • Zephorah@discuss.onlineEnglish
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    2 months ago

    As someone who reads scifi like a chain smoker in a tobacco warehouse, this reads as somewhat antiquated. Niven and Heinlein and such back in the day, definitely in the American camp on how they wrote women and relationships, not seeing much of that lately though. Heavy lean on military scifi instead. Most of it narrated by RC Bray.

    Silo series was American. Though that felt like the smart man’s Fallout as a writing prompt. Chuck Wendig, American. Maybe we all just have apocalypse on the brain the last decade.

    Not sure the space romance thing is limited to one country’s culture. God save us all from young adult fiction of any kind, because this is the main plot.

    The real issue in scifi rn is the multiverse popping up like the vampire trend back in the Sookie Stackhouse days. Every other description of newly “printed” scifi I’ve read in my book searches this year: multiverse. Is everyone just out of ideas?

    I liked it better when it felt like the scifi market was trying to find the next expanse.

    • A_norny_mousse@piefed.zipEnglish
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      2 months ago

      You are correct.

      I think the meme’s about some popular films & TV shows and anyhow it’s just a version of countless “A British, an American and a French scientist meet in a bar” jokes.

      SciFi in literature is alive and kicking and just as multifaceted and nationality-defeating as ever.

    • zen@lemmy.zipEnglish
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      2 months ago

      I hate multiverse stories. Give me oppressive time loops instead.

  • cannedtuna@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    1 month ago

    Japanese: Gundam, obviously

    American: gotta be Stranger in a Strange Land by Robert A Heinlein

    French: idk. Flash Gordon, Attack of the 50’ Woman, and Barberella are what come to mind, but those are American films

    British: Time Machine by HG Wells of course

  • Rose@slrpnk.netEnglish
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    2 months ago

    Old Russian scifi: welcome to the crapsack post-apocalypse. It’s strangely similar to the current day. So, the protagonists do what current day people do: grim philosophical brooding.

    Current Russian scifi: Awesome Russian soldier dude gets isekai’d to World War 2 and defeats the evil Western bastards. Help the author is trapped in Putin’s book factory send help