Admittedly a risky crosspost, but cannot find conflicting community rules. I believe the possible discussion justifies it.
cross-posted from: https://piefed.blahaj.zone/c/peertube@piefed.blahaj.zone/p/999813/what-s-stopping-you-from-using-peertube
Or ‘What is PeerTube lacking that you simply cannot do without?’
I believe it’s a safe assumption that fediverse users want to move away from the monopolies and closed gardens so often associated with video streaming, and yet it’s not a task that’s ever been made easy. Maybe an ounce of inspiration is the cue we need, and so my question to you is; What’s Stopping you from using PeerTube?
There’s nothing to watch. The feed is full of TV-ish garbage on political topics, and I cannot even block it from appearing.
The main blocker for me is the siloed nature of PeerTube servers.
There are two or three active channels on video.canadiancivil.com I like to peruse, but there’s not a reliable way I can find train, public transport and urbanism content outside of that server on Peertube. I’d like to be able to create my own Peertube identity without my own single user server so I can make my own subscription feed across the fedi-video-verse, but Peertube account signups are notoriously limited. In a couple months I might have the tools to set up my own, we’ll see.
The other thing is music: YouTube has original studio versions, concert performances, karaoke versions, remixes and covers of nearly every popular song in existence, I don’t think PeerTube could ever compete on that. So, being realistic, at least in the first category I would like to see more improvement.
lack of videos
I also find the federation makes it even more fragmented and difficult to find content from the few creators I’d follow (mostly reposts from Youtube).
And it’s not even like the different instances follow a theme consistently.
It should just be you check on a bunch of instances and you get a combined feed of them all. If thats possible on the app, it isnt obvious enough.
I think the architecture of federation is flawed. Different instances should share the same common elements while each hosting their own.
On Lemmy there shouldn’t be 5 different subs of the same thing where everyone just goes on the most popular one. Everyone should be rehosting the same sub on their own… I mean that’s how the internet works. That’s DNS is shared…
Peertube’s main usecase for me would be links based video hosting. So if I wanted to embed or link a video in a webpage, or a course moodle.
videos ain’t that the truth
Because it functions poorly as a way to see a lot of content that I want to see.
If there is a way to see/browse all of the content available on peertube all at once, I am unaware of it.
If there’s a way to curate my feed such that it pulls from multiple decentralized instances, I am unaware of it.
Make it very easy for me to see everything, make it easy for me to curate my feed from that everything available.
Personally, I dont watch a lot of youtube and I try to avoid it.
Have any of you tried asking your favorite creators to post on multiple platforms? If so, what is the response?
Last I tried, it was hard to find videos I would enjoy, and I couldn’t create an account.
I like YT for playthroughs of horror games, video essays, music, highly specific skits, and some miscellaneous stuff.
None of the YTubers I follow are interested in anything other than YT, Twitch, or Patreon, as that’s where their audiences are.
I considered joining Peertube as a creator, but there’s still the issue of finding an instance.
Ultimately, it’s the lack of any real reason to use it.
As a user, there’s no content on any PeerTube instances that I’m particularly interested in. Or if there is, I have no realistic way of locating it because the search/discovery features are effectively non-functional; unless you’re really into 3-hour videos titled “A Deep Dive into Every Reason why Richard Stallman was Right”, the recommendations are otherwise useless. There’s also no features that interest me that aren’t also available on any other platform I consume video from.
As a small creator (under 500 followers across 3 platforms), there’s no audience to show my content to on PeerTube, and no real way to gain an audience. There’s effectively zero exposure opportunities on PeerTube, and unless you already have a large audience that you can convince to move to a new platform, then nobody’s going to see your content. Even though I’m not making videos for any monetary gain and doing it purely because it’s fun for me, a big part of that fun comes from the engagement I get to have with the community. And if that community isn’t going to be active on PeerTube, then neither will I; this was the reason I stopped posting to Loops.
If I were a larger creator, or somebody whose income relied on video creation, then I would have even less inclination to use PeerTube because the monetization capabilities are basically nonexistent. Yes, you can add a KoFi link to your channel details, but you can also draw a QR code to your KoFi link on a cardboard sign and stand by the traffic lights for all that’s worth; in fact, I think that would actually still give you MORE exposure than PeerTube would, and you don’t even have to make videos to do that.
While I generally agree with the ideology behind PeerTube and want to see it succeed, it’s just not in any practical state for me, no matter which angle I look at it from.
As a user, there’s no content on any PeerTube instances that I’m particularly interested in. Or if there is, I have no realistic way of locating it because the search/discovery features are effectively non-functional
While I agree with the lack of content that I’m interested in, when it comes to searching, the Web search engines that index video can find it. Kagi Video specifically has “PeerTube” as a source, so you can search just PeerTube.
I feel like the only content creators that would want Peertube are either those who want to post videos and fundamentally hate the algorithm platforms and those who have been deplatformed and need a quick way to get content up for their audience.
It’s nearly impossible to find new stuff that interests me on it.
The content I want to watch.
If I want to host videos on PeerTube, I want to do so on my own instance, and the process of setting up your own instance is not as easy as I would like. I’ve tried it a few times, ran into a wall, gave up and went back to YouTube with my tail between my legs.
Content is lacking. I don’t like the UI. Fewer features, and non-responsive admins.
Basically it just isn’t up to snuff.
There are genuine reasons to not like PeerTube, like the lack of monetisation, lacking types of content (Like you mentioned), incompatibilities between instances due to not catching up to new PeerTube versions, hard power-hungy federation, etc…
But what missing features are there though? I can maybe think of lack automatic subtitling in many instances. Your point about non-responsive admins is weird though, I’m actually not experienced, but the 2 instances I’ve used (TILVids and ExquisiteTube) have highly responsive admins, which instances have you tried?
I’m genuinely curious to hear your other difficulties (If you can) because I myself don’t know what is to be expected by regular users
nothing stopping me at all I found out just now. I was able to search for and find a bunch of interesting videos and even followed a creator from my mastodon account and replied to a video post through mastodon with no issue. Now if the question was what is stopping me from posting my own videos to peertube its because I can’t find any server I would like to tie my content to and I don’t want to pay even $7/mo for a VPS to run my own and my shared hosting company won’t allow me to run it.
I’m one of those people who watch videos at double speed. My experience with Peertube is that it just isn’t fast enough to keep up.
In an immediate sense for me, the content I want to see. I’ve found virtually nothing on PeerTube that’s worth my time watching, whereas YouTube has all sorts of interesting stuff.
But that really just leads to a deeper question of why that content isn’t there.
Google’s got the economics set up ao that they can pay content creators. PeerTube doesn’t. That means that people who want to do this for a living are going to be on YouTube.
Not all of the content I want to see falls into that camp, but certainly some of it does.
Then there’s network effect, which benefits an incumbent. PeerTube has a limited userbase. Even for people who are putting up content without intention of making money, they probably want to reach a large number of users relative to the effort they put in.
I think that the big factor is going to be the economic side. Google’s got a setup where they can make money for their own infrastructure and pay content creators. PeerTube doesn’t, and I don’t really see a way that that changes.
I kinda hope it stays that way, creators who do it because they want to share not monoplise. I think like here its just slower. It will hopefully grow organically
Next to the lack of content argument, I simply don’t get how it works. It’s federated, but feels much different from lemmy or Mastodon. I would say the instance feel ‘less connected’ as there is no good way to explore instances, at least in my experience. You can’t make an account and when you can it’s only valid for that one instance. Content exploration is a nightmare and a lot of content is in french, which I’m not great at. The (iOS) app is hardst working and the website(s) are confusing. I tried peertube for a while but i was mostly stuck on one instance with only one or two channels that made content that I found remotely interesting… I am really hoping it takes off at some point, but I think a lot of development still has to be done to make it usable for the casual user












