20min is a lot.
If it takes me 20min to walk somewhere, I bike instead.
If it took me 20min to bike somewhere, I consider how to plan it into my day.
I am absolutely willing to bike up to 1h, an did so to school for years, it’s not something spontaneous anymore.
All of that is of course more complicated, daily commutes feel longer, greenery makes it feel shorter.
I don’t bike unless I have to carry cargo or it’s going to take more than an hour to walk, because of how hostile and aggressive drivers have become. I miss just getting on my bike without a care.
A big part of it is that you have to walk back home, so a 15 minute walk is actually a 30 minute commitment at the minimum just to buy some snacks.
I think we need to make a distinction between “possible to walk” and “walking is the default”. A 30 minute walk to work with a grocery store on the way is doable but you’re not gonna find many people doing it, plus factors like how enjoyable the environment is affects whether you’ll actually want to walk.
Is 16 minutes a long time for a walkable city? I always thought that the bar was something like 30 minutes, and 20 minutes was normal-ish.
I am a fan of city design that tries to keep total commute time, including walking and transit, under 30 minutes.
It’s specifically targeted at the concept of the 15 minute city/neighbourhood
20min is a lot.
If it takes me 20min to walk somewhere, I bike instead.
If it took me 20min to bike somewhere, I consider how to plan it into my day.
I am absolutely willing to bike up to 1h, an did so to school for years, it’s not something spontaneous anymore. All of that is of course more complicated, daily commutes feel longer, greenery makes it feel shorter.
I don’t bike unless I have to carry cargo or it’s going to take more than an hour to walk, because of how hostile and aggressive drivers have become. I miss just getting on my bike without a care.
For me 10 is the max as here in the equator the sun is unkind. Anything more than that i’m biking.
A big part of it is that you have to walk back home, so a 15 minute walk is actually a 30 minute commitment at the minimum just to buy some snacks.
I think we need to make a distinction between “possible to walk” and “walking is the default”. A 30 minute walk to work with a grocery store on the way is doable but you’re not gonna find many people doing it, plus factors like how enjoyable the environment is affects whether you’ll actually want to walk.
16 minutes is a long time in a 15-minute city.