Okay, so I tried Tuta and found the UI clunky and buggy. I tried Mailbox.org and their billing is a mess and they took my money without crediting the account. *(I have a pending ticket, we’ll see what they said.)
I do have a proton mail account, but I haven’t given them $ yet because of… well you know. Sadly, out of the three I’ve tried their product is the best.
Wondering what to check out next. I really want to ditch the G but I’m evaluating services before I jump off the ledge this time.
I use disroot, it’s great and the only email service I’ve seen that’s private but still supports IMAP, but your email arent encrypted by default unless you encrypt inside an email client like thunderbird and you can also get custom domains if you donate them money for life as well as use any email client you like if you don’t like one specific UI
inbox.eu if looking for a cheap-ish European client
Given that it’s November, if you aren’t in a hurry you might want to check whether whatever provider you decide to go with had a Black Friday sale last year. I wouldn’t let a sale be a deciding factor on what to use, but if a service you want to try is likely to have a sale in a few weeks you may as well wait.
I use Fastmail with my own domain. It’s great.
AFAIK you can find Email clients in Alternetiveto
I like migadu.com. Not sure why it’s never recommended. OK, the UI is outdated, but i rarely have to go there anyway. Been using it for 2-3 years now, not a single hiccup yet.
I just wish the spam filter did anything. I get so much obvious spam and phishing coming through.
Fastmail. They do just mail and aren’t attempting to be a full Google Suite replacement.
Been there for almost a decade with zero issues.
Fastmail has servers in the US, which is not great for privacy. Even if you use their EU server there’s still a copy of your data in the US:
Resilient replicas of your data will live in the US (for now). As we only have one location in Europe so far, the geographically separate copy will remain on servers in one of our US locations.
Still better than what the Proton CEO is doing.
If proton works great for you, use it. But stay alert.
Otherwise, i would give tuta a chance. There’s also infomaniak.
I self host but I used namecheap’s private email before and it was fine: https://www.namecheap.com/hosting/email/
Namecheap has gotten into hot water for some israel stuff
I hadn’t heard of this, reading about it now. If you’re referring to the same thing, it seems they refused DNS service for a website that hosted videos showing extreme violence, because it violated their ToS. If they really did not release the domain immediately, that’s a bit questionable, but personally I don’t think it’s a big scandal or anything, as far as tech companies go.
Soverin
Fastmail
Using it for 2 or so years now, never had problems
https://mailcow.email/ – they have a SaaS offering at https://servercow.de/ or you can have someone else host it. I’m at https://administrieren.net/, another very small German provider.
Can’t see any prices für administrieren on their webpage. How much do you pay for email?
Funny, i like Tuta’s UI more than Protons UI.
I wish it was a little modern
Yeah that’s true. I would also like a oled dark mode.
Mailbox.org is currently the best alternative. I think they will resolve your issue.
Love Mailbox. Their website is horrible but once you connect your email to your local applications it’s perfect.
What application do you like?
Mail on iPhone Thunderbird on Linux
I am on android and thunderbird also has a client for that. I am really happy with that one too.
I think iOS has a test version but I haven’t used it much. My thinking was since I’m sure iPhone spies me anyways I’ll use theirs versus another. I should try that though.
Glad you like it
I’ve just switched. I’m using Betterbird on Linux and FairEmail on Graphene.
Fiddling with Inbox PGP with Mailbox Guard and other settings at the moment.
Proton does make it easier.
The website is horrific and not being able to find what I want on there is what is putting me off switching to them right now
It’s easy to find what you want, the website is simply slow.
Maybe I’m just being blind then. I can deal with slow I just didn’t find what I wanted and the search in the help section didnt help.
I’ll give it another chance and have a look. I just barely know what I’m doing with custom domains yet as this is my first forray and so may have been looking at what I needed and didnt realise :)
Post here if you get stuck. Others will help.
I’m in the process of moving from Proton to mailbox.org and found the information I needed in the knowledge base (and a little googling to clarify how their instructions relate to my domain provider).
Selfhosted
Try it. Show me your whisdom of how you maintain an email server as a webadmin, let alone one whose job is not maintaining it
Wow I really offended you
I set up a mailserver in NixOS. It was a bit of time investment because I really wanted to write it myself and understand how it all fits together, but maintenance is not an issue; I haven’t touched it through 3 distribution upgrades. A friend just copied my config on a VPS and it works for them as well.
There’s also a turnkey mailserver nix project that I haven’t tried but it seems to just work: https://nixos-mailserver.readthedocs.io/en/nixos-26.05/
(I realize that NixOS is the new Arch, actually, but this sort of stuff is where it really shines.)
I know this is the best method for most reasons, but … I’m tired.
