• Rooster326@programming.dev
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      2 months ago

      No but I’m sure it lt would literally (read: narratively) affect any mortal programming the computer, or setting the LLM out with such a purpose.

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        2 months ago

        affect any mortal programming the computer

        You don’t need the ring nearby when programming the computer.

    • LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Well it’s interesting that it makes regular ringing/metallic sounds when it’s dropped(at least in the movies), so it is not inelastic. Which means it could be deformed if placed under extreme force but it would always spring back into shape. So I think it might be the world’s most powerful spring.

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      2 months ago

      It really depends on the other material properties. Like if it’s as slippery as nylon vs as slippery as rubber is really gonna change things. Plus how does it react to outside forces trying to destroy it? Absorption? Diffusion? Conversion (like heat into sound or something).

      All that would drastically change what you could do with it

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          Sure. For me (computer scientist but went to engineering based school) I’d be most excited about the experimental possibilities.

          I mean if nothing else the potential to have the world’s most stable mass and dimensional object could revolutionize measurements, which might not sound the most practical until you realize just how much we rely on dimensional accuracy for so many things.

          There’s some experiments where we fire a laser at things, and we’re approaching powers (zetawatts) where things basically instantly melt. Having a material that can withstand that could allow experiments that could push our understanding of light, nuclear reactions, quantum mechanics, and more.

          From a practical aspect. If it, say, absorbs heat. Having a limitless heat sink could potentially let us explore deeper into the Earth’s core than ever before (where the heat and pressure really caused issues for the drills).

          And all that is just off a few seconds thought from a non engineer.

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            2 months ago

            If it absorbs infinite heat, it would be great as a you heatsink - think of the possibilities? Or maybe it just has zero heat capacity.

          • 🍉 DrRedOctopus 🐙🍉@lemmy.world
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            Not sure if it is useful for measurement standards, as it is seen changing size based on the wielder.

            which could be use for stuff. big finger person puts something inside, hand it to someone with smaller fingers, and it has unlimited crushing force.

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              2 months ago

              Well, it doesn’t change size based on the wielder. It changes size based on its will and what it percieves will bring it the result it desires. Which is admittedly way more complex and abstract. This is why I said knowing more about it’s properties would be extremely important to figuring out how to use it.

              If it only changes size in one direction, like growing bigger to slip off a finger, but the band width never changes, then it would still be extremely useful for some measurements. We also don’t know if there’s a maximum or minimum to it’s size changes which would greatly matter.

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      I think it’s not about the temperature of mount doom, but the magical effects of the ring being forged there. But I could be way off…

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      2 months ago

      since the ring posesses magical powers, maybe you can trigger it to release a “magical explosion” some how. but MAGIC is very nebelous in lotr, very little spellcasting, or magical attacks, or effects magic.

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    This is more of an orbital nuclear defense question since Mordor has a pretty in depth strategy against this sort of threat. Frodo probably didn’t consider this option because of the Pan-Middle Earth nuclear deescalation agreement of the second age, sub section 2, page five, which if violated could have big international downstream effects.

  • 👍Maximum Derek👍@discuss.tchncs.de
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    Hobbit rockets never leave the ground. They use pipe-weed as fuel and, by T plus 60 of any launch, the engineers are all giggling on the launch pad eating funions as a quick post-elevenses snack.

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      2 months ago

      Oops, you missed the cave and now you’ve just invented Middle Earth’s fastest possible way to return the Ring to Sauron.

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    Counterpoint.

    What if they buried it, like real deep, like 50m+ deep.

    It was at the bottom of a river for 2500 years, it’s honestly more effective than taking the ring right into enemy land.

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      2 months ago

      If you read the books, a lot of people thought Sauron wasn’t ever getting the One back because they were convinced it must’ve been swept out to sea.

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            Fifth-age Mordorian Nazis would scour the ocean floor for it in their submersibles until they find it.

            At that point no one in Middle Earth would still even believe in the One Ring, if any had even heard of it outside of fairy tales told to children.

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              I’m not big on lotr lore. My Atlas of Middle Earth was mostly just used for RPG, and the Silmarillion has been left untouched on the book-shelves in my home. But are you saying that there’s a nazi-hunting-artifacts storyline? Like Indiana Jones in Middle Earth?

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                No, I just made that up. Assuming technology continues to develop, if sauron hasn’t been defeated by the fifth age there very well might be a mordorian nazi treasure hunter storyline

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                  Oh… it would be kinda cool though: the modern world set in middle earth. Maybe add a little steam punk dwarven tech and some elves with electric doodads. I could definitely see an elven technological schism with one traditional group and another consisting of hipsters with the latest innovations.

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            2 months ago

            Too risky.
            What if the huge lump of steel ends up having a hole (imperfection, which would be caused by the will of Sauron affecting the Dwarven workers’ concentration) and someone then puts a finger in it?

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              Have guards at a safe distance ready to flood the casting floor with molten iron, while the dwarves are working. It may be cruel, but an influenced dwarf wouldn’t get away with the ring.

              Imperfections would be acceptable. I mean once the ring is encased in 2 tons of steel good frigging luck getting to it unnoticed.

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                Do we know what powers the ring gives to a dwarven smith?
                Would he be able to find a way to escape incoming molten metal the moment he put his finger in a 2 ton steel sphere?

                What if he ends up with the power to mould metal by thought? He might just manage to deform the same piece of steel and use it to prevent the molten metal from getting to him and then use it to create stilts and a shield for incoming guard attack?


                Ok, maybe they can just make a cast, separately, away from the ring’s influence and then get Frodo to drop the ring in the molten metal right after it part of it has been poured in.
                But what if the ring ends up floating or sinking during the hardening (cooling down) process, making it accessible to touch, but at the same time, hard enough to detect?

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    What in the heck is that graph? Abundance as a function of time?? What? But the data looks a lot more like some kind of EMR spectrum?