• Libb@piefed.social
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      3 months ago

      My impression would be that they’re an idiot and overestimate their own intelligence. They also probably complain online that women won’t date them, and most likely voted Republican.

      Republican vote aside (the world does not end at the US borders, mind you, and most of us humans living on this planet your country is mercilessly wrecking havoc upon are not US citizens), I would quite agree.

      ‘Machiavellian’ is not something one will say about themselves, it’s something one will say about someone else. Oftentimes misusing it. Hence the importance of reading that (short) book written by Machiavelli, ‘The Prince’ in which he explains how to be, well, a prince in various types of princedoms. He also shows how ‘bad’ actions may be the right actions for that prince, but it’s far from being limited to that idea.

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    3 months ago

    Probably exerts a lot of energy fitting into their idea of who they should be compared to others.

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    That they take themselves WAY too seriously and they’re trying to get whoever’s listening to think that way as well.

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    I would guess that they know either much less, or much more than I do about Machiavelli, or they’re speaking ironically. I’d be curious to engage them in conversation to find out which might be the case.

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    Uh… it was like the default example for “evil leader” before Hitler.

    Sounds like someone who wants attention. Enjoys the edginess and obvious absurdity in a statement like that.

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    3 months ago

    They send catty text messages after four glasses of wine to their friends to complain about their kids’ third grade teacher and think they’re being manipulative.

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    Republican Machiavelli? Or deliberately giving terrible advice to princes Machiavelli?

    Either way he really hated mercenaries.

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    Attention-seeking. An edgelord, basically.

    If they’re actually serious, they might be saying it to inure you to the future bad behavior they wish to exhibit.

    Either way, doesn’t sound like a pleasant acquaintance.

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      If they’re actually serious, they might be saying it to inure you to the future bad behavior they wish to exhibit.

      Yeah, this is something I notice a lot. People will claim “I am x” and use it to avoid accountability when confronted later about their actions.

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      Without a lot more evidence, there’s nothing “probably” about this. Not every uncomfortable person is neurodivergent, sometimes people just suck.

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        The fact they’d say it out loud without understanding what that would entail is what would make me think they’re probably in the spectrum. I’m not saying they would be Machiavellian (if they’re saying it casually, because some YouTuber covered it this week and the “Dark Triad traits that make you irresistible!!!”, and without any convoluted reason for how this could help them reach their objectives, they simply couldn’t be), just comically socially inept to the point that a diagnosis might come in handy.