• Demdaru@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Lemmy: MISOGYNY!

    Meanwhile, me, a dumdum: Damn the author has experienced critically low self-esteem…or the joke is as fun as a rock in the field.

    Like, either it’s self-depreciating/edgy humor or it’s not humor at all lol.

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      11 months ago

      I immediately understood it to be a description of severe depression. If a neurotypical person suddenly experiences a low from a period similar to a depressed person’s average day, why is it suddenly misogyny?

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        11 months ago

        Because the depressed person is a man, there are many people who still treat mental illness and emotional trauma as character flaws, but only when men have them, otherwise it’s all about listening and believing. Tl;dr: sexism against men is far more rampant and casually accepted than people think

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            11 months ago

            I’d be more willing to listen if y’all didnt insist on naming your ideological evil after men then wondering why so many are skeptical everything you say, it demonizes half the population.

            • bearboiblake [he/him]@pawb.social
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              11 months ago

              Patriarchy? It’s not named after men, it’s named for “patriarch” - it means “rule of the father”. It is very present in many typical households, where a male father figure makes and enforces the rules of the household. This serves as something of a microcosm of society at large.

              I think you are seeing this as some sort of “battle of the sexes”, like women vs. men kind of a situation - that’s not what it’s about, it just has been a historical fact, in most societies, going all the way back to the concept of dowry payments that a “father of the house” makes the decisions, up to and including decisions for women and girls, such as who they will marry, and so on, but in return this means that men have to perform a specific role and have a lot of pressures and expectations placed upon them, which can lead to very harmful effects on men too.

              Feminism is fighting for men and women against a harmful ideology that primarily benefits the men of the ruling class.

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                10 months ago

                “It’s not named after men” “rule of the father” what gender is a father typically? I don’t see it as a battle of the sexes, it’s a battle for basic human empathy

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                  10 months ago

                  Could you explain a little more what you mean? I thought my comment explained pretty thoroughly why patriarchy is named as such, can you explain why you object to it, and where you feel that lack of empathy?

  • s@piefed.world
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    11 months ago

    Men will literally menstruate 24/7 instead of going to therapy

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          11 months ago

          The answer is to fight for a healthcare system that covers all health (including mental) instead of trying to be the most effective funnel of money from the poor into the coffers of the rich.

          Sadly, the people who are most lacking in mental health support are largely the ones who actively fight against such a structure (because propaganda works).

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            11 months ago

            Tell me how we do that exactly? Just keep voting and hope that some kind of policy goes through and hopefully before you finally blow your brains out?

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              11 months ago

              You seem to think that box #2 is the last hope. I’m not ready to give up on that one yet. But if things get so bad that the ballot box truly doesn’t matter any more, we still have two more to defend liberty with. I hope we never again need the fourth box.

              Throwing your hands in the air and saying “it’s too rigged, there’s no hope” is exactly what the opps want.

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      11 months ago

      You’re not doing anything by saying “go to therapy.” If you really cared, pay for someone’s therapy.

  • Typhoon@lemmy.ca
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    11 months ago

    Misogynistic drivel.

    Woman: I’m suffering

    Man: I have it worse!

    Shut the fuck up and listen. If someone says they’re suffering you pay attention to their problems not make it a contest.

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      11 months ago

      She wasn’t merely saying, “I’m suffering”. The comic starts with, “you don’t understand”. It starts with her dismissing the comiseration attempt.

      This highroad is cute and all, but it’s grossly ignorant to reality or the fact that there are no heroes in this comic: It is not one side being dismissed. It is both sides failing to communicate. They are both talking past each other.

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      11 months ago

      You do undermine your own point a bit by trivializing men’s suffering in the same breath as demanding nobody trivialize suffering.

      The comic is bullshit for sure but you did exactly the same thing it did.

      • 0xDREADBEEF@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        11 months ago

        There is no real life situation where the proper response to a person crying in your presence who claims they have it bad is “I have it worse”

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          11 months ago

          A rich teenager crying about how they’re not getting the brand new car they wanted for their sweet 16.

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            11 months ago

            ah okay you got me, but that does not at all make this comic not mysogynistic. There is none of that context here. I dont care about this dudes opinion

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        11 months ago

        He ignored her suffering and diminished it saying that for 5 days a month she feels what he deals with every day. He’s ignoring her point and one-upping her. That’s toxic behaviour that doesn’t help anything.

        That he is also suffering is a separate conversation that also needs to take place but that’s a different conversation. The first step is resolving conflict is by listening to the other person’s point of view, not dismissing it as less important.

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          11 months ago

          They’re both being toxic in the comic, so trying to play it as if either is more correct is being disingenuous and is a massive source of the confusion in this discussion.