• [object Object]@lemmy.ca
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    1 month ago
    1. How come Elon hasn’t been sued into bankruptcy over these deaths?
    2. How is FSD not outright criminal fraud?
    3. How is not having accessible door handles in a fire allowed, legal, and not the source of massive lawsuits?
    4. How is FSD allowed when it’s objectively one of the least safe driving modes around?

    Fuck, this is like a fractal of liability that somehow they never get in trouble for. Everywhere you look it gets worse.

    • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
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      1 month ago

      How come Elon hasn’t been sued into bankruptcy over these deaths?

      Class Action Lawsuits: A major class-action lawsuit was certified in August 2025 by a California judge, representing Tesla owners who claim they were misled by marketing regarding the autonomous capabilities of FSD, with plaintiffs seeking refunds for purchased software.

      Active Crash Litigation: Litigation is ongoing in at least eight cases involving the use of Tesla Autopilot/FSD during a fatal or serious crash, according to reports as of March 2024. This includes lawsuits alleging the system fails to detect objects, such as a case in Washington state involving a motorcyclist.

      $243 Million Damages Verdict: In February 2026, a federal court upheld a verdict ordering Tesla to pay $243 million in damages regarding a fatal 2025 crash involving Autopilot, marking a significant legal loss for the company.

      NHTSA Probes & Recalls: The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) is investigating over 2.9 million Tesla vehicles regarding FSD’s ability to follow traffic laws (including running red lights). In early 2026, this shifted to a “recall query” to verify the effectiveness of a previous software update aimed at fixing the issues.

      Criminal Investigation: Reports in 2024 indicated that Tesla is under federal criminal investigation over claims that the company misled consumers and investors about its autonomous driving features.

      Tesla would have been shut down if idiots didn’t elect a corrupt President literally selling Teslas on the White House Lawn.

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      FSD is not allowed in the UK. Assuming that’s true, then then presumably they were using autopilot. While I don’t see how people can mistake autopilot for self driving, perhaps they can. Perhaps there’s some misleading advertising over there but ……

    • merc@sh.itjust.works
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      1 month ago

      Also:

      1. How is it that the company that makes this shit has a price-to-earnings ratio of 326 and a market cap of $1.3 trillion. Meanwhile Toyota makes good dependable cars and has a P/E ratio of 11.41 and a market cap of $266 billion, even though Toyota sells 10x as many cars.
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      1 month ago

      Well you see, being the world’s richest person enables him to do whatever he wants without repercussion. And what’s a poorer person going to do, go bankrupt and homeless fighting his lawyers?

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      Tesla has been sued. But their brilliant legal defense is that full self driving needs the driver’s full attention to take over. These accidents are human error Not Tesla

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        In this accident I’m sure Autopilot disengaged half a second before the crash, that somehow proves it wasn’t Autopilot’s fault.

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      1. He’s disgustingly rich.
      2. He’s disgustingly rich.
      3. He’s disgustingly rich.
      4. He’s disgustingly rich.

      They have been sued, but it doesn’t matter, because that’s just the cost of doing business. (If the punishment for a crime is a fine, it’s only illegal for poor people to do it.)

    • wheezy@lemmy.ml
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      The dude owns a platform that actively generates nude photos of real people on the platform. Then proceeded to put the child porn generating feature behind a paywall when shamed publicly.

      At what point will people realize that laws do not apply to the capitalist (Epstein) class. Shame is literally the only (non violent) weapon we have left and they are actively working to stop that as well.

      The only way they will see non vigilante justice is at the hands of a revolution.

      • BygoneNeutrino@lemmy.world
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        …I honestly don’t think rich people feel incredible shame by being referred to as the Epstein class. They don’t care.