• rumba@lemmy.zip
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    3 months ago

    I’ve never completely understood what the full fuss is over the face-mounted cameras. They put high-power zooms and 50MP sensors on the back of cell phones, and nobody bats an eye.

    There’s fuckloads of recording going on. Do it with a phone? yeah fine. Do it with glasses, world’s gonna end.

    Put an indicator light on the glasses with a sensor to make sure it’s on from the nose bridge.

    I’d LOVE to replace my phone with a pair of glasses.

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      Put an indicator light on the glasses with a sensor to make sure it’s on from the nose bridge.

      This is that part that’s missing, it’s more obvious when someone is holding their phone to record you. Phone’s should probably have an indicator too…

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        this also assumes the entire public is aware of what that little light means, if they can even see it in sunny situations. oh, a light! ok, why didn’t you say so, i by all means now consent to endless public recording from human mounted cameras /s

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        3 months ago

        phones should absolutely indicate and in a way that can’t be taped over.

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          Can’t it just be illegal to record someone without consent or something? Barring whistelblowing use cases. Putting it on the device manufacturers to stop it is rather dystopian and is like the age verification laws going into affect so they can shut down foss.

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            I’m totally down with that. exception of the police and government officials. of course, it’d never happen because it would make commercial surveilance cameras illegal.

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        In some countries, they’ve made it illegal to turn off the shutter sound on your camera, so that women can hear the sound when some pervert is trying to take upskirts.

        Putting a recording light on the glasses does basically the same thing, by alerting those around them. It wouldn’t be hard to disable it, though.

    • Yes, both the glasses and phone can record.

      The glasses have an AI that can scan social media, and other public data, to identify people in real time. I supposed this can be done with an app on a phone. But the glasses do this as a core function.

      It’s also a lot more obvious when someone is using a phone to record in public.

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        It’s also a lot more obvious when someone is using a phone to record in public.

        Agree. Less obvious with glasses… AND easier to do it 24/7. People get tired holding up a phone. Or they have to put it down to use both hands for something. With glasses, some will record everyone around them, during every moment of their waking life.

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        But the glasses do this as a core function.

        go back to google glass, it had none of that and it was just as big of a target.

        It’s also a lot more obvious when someone is using a phone to record in public.

        There are entire kinks around voyure footage taken unaware in public from cell phones. I think your lack of seeing people doing it a confirmation bias.

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      Would be less of an issue if everything wasn’t uploaded and analyzed by Meta, which will eventually be handed over to the feds and advertisers. If everything was done locally and not uploaded, there’s still the problem of it being like a “spy” cam. Lights can always be taped or painted over. There’s already been cases of people doing stuff like going to massage parlors and uploading the videos. There’s been reports of Meta employees and contractors having to analyze videos of people using the restroom, dressing/undressing, having sex (I assume these people didn’t realize they were recording, or they didn’t realize others would be able watch).

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      3 months ago

      If I obviously orientate my phone towards you or your kids, you’ll be totally cool?
      Now assume that a smartpervert glass wearer is doing just that but you don’t know about it.

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        If I obviously orientate my phone towards you or your kids, you’ll be totally cool?

        You don’t need to obviously do that, a reasonably wide lens and you “reading social media” would do the same. It happens all the fucking time.

        Now assume that a smartpervert glass wearer is doing just that but you don’t know about it.

        Assume every time someone has their phone in front of them their camera is on and has at least a 45 degree viewing angle.

        I’m saying it’s exactly the same on a phone, don’t delude yourself that it isn’t happening or that it’d be totally obvious

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            My problem is we’ve let it through literally everywhere else, cameras, cellphones, public survielance, dashcams. The one thing that i’d actually like to be able not to pull my phones out for is the hill to die on. it just all seems really fucking pointless

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          This comparison is like saying that, because a car can be used to run over pedestrians at any time, there is no reason to be alarmed about people installing the Crosswalk-pocalypse 5000 (now with 30% more spikes!) on their front bumper.

          Of course we know people can discretely record you with a phone. The difference is that the fraction of people doing that is very small, while the percentage of people doing that with Meta glasses is basically 100%.

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            the fraction of people doing that is very small, while the percentage of people doing that with Meta glasses is basically 100%.

            care to give me any citation at all on that?

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              Honestly, pulling it out of my ass.

              Now your turn… what is your definition of “very small”, and where is your citation that a larger percentage of the population uses their phone camera to discretely creep on people?

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          You don’t need to obviously do that, a reasonably wide lens and you “reading social media” would do the same. It happens all the fucking time.

          No, I don’t think it happens “all the fucking time”. That it happens is granted. I don’t think it’s that common.

          I’m saying it’s exactly the same on a phone, don’t delude yourself that it isn’t happening or that it’d be totally obvious

          Smartphones have an incredibly range of usage, and no one ever advertised them as “tool to secretly take pics and videos of people around you”. And no, it’s not that easy to film people secretly: you need to maintain the phone with the right orientation for an extended period of time and if you or the target move, it gets more and more obvious.

          Smartglasses are almost made for that, and the abuses are already showing out there:

          https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/meta-glasses-app-covert-filming-women-girls-safety-b2942005.html https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/meta-glasses-covert-recording-9.7139927 https://www.cnn.com/2026/02/09/world/manfluencers-smart-glasses-intl https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx23ke7rm7go

          I’m not the delusional here. You’re in denial of what’s already happening. And without a strong regulation, it will get worse.

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    Are they that terrible or is this mostly a corporate propaganda campaign against Facebook? We’re all on every camera and microphone pointed in our direction 24/7 already because ppl couldn’t figure out we shouldn’t turn every nation into a corporate surveillance state.

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    Bro I just want to listen to music without putting something in my ear, not be a pervert. Why do people have to ruin things.

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    Please reach out to your family and urge them to stop using Facebook (or worse, any form of reels) if they still do. The onus is on the informed now. It’s not enough to just ask the tech barons to stop, we also need to divert their support.

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      I’m so happy that no one in my family is into social media at all. But those who I know who are into it, just do not care at all. To a point where I wouldn’t even bring it up

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        But those who I know who are into it, just do not care at all.

        I have friends like that too. Which is why it’s so hard.

        It’s not even a fair fight, b/c the big social medias employ psychologists to design their product to be as addictive as possible. So it pits Jane and Fred Doe of Main Street against a team of psychologist PhD who study every possible way to weaponize Jane and Fred’s normal human feelings and emotions. Jane & Fred doesn’t want to quit, so will find ways to rationalize a use of the products.

        It’s a big damn problem. It impacts everyone. All of us. Not just the ones who use FB, IG, or X.

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    Also, it will introduce: snitchonomics.

    Mass surveillance is here, but what if you could be an annoying little shit in the local community? Introducing: snitchonomics. Go around your neighborhood, discover discrepancies, automate your snitching and become a toadie for the local commissars.

    Meta: the Nazis would have loved us.

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      Nazis did love us. we’ve always been on the forefront of legalism, detention, and genocide. de toqueville wrote extensively about it

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        Oh for sure. The Nazis were in awe and inspired by the American white supremacist, because of the truly fucked up things they did to black and brown people.

        Reading CRT is exhausting in many ways. How many mass graves have been dug up thus far?

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          When I first encountered them, I thought to myself ‘this is the most communist shit I ever heard, how is this popular in the USA?’

          and then Trump came along and the answer: oh, because most fucking idiots love either bootlicking or powertripping

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      Just add an arbitrary point system like they give reviewers on Google Maps and people will be beating down the door to do this.

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          stones in my fucking shoes it is then.

          Everybody says this… but I’m afraid it won’t help or for very long. Gate recog algos measures physical characteristics. Things that are not changed by a shoe stone, like the length of your femur and tibia. The way your hips move as your leg does. Ratio of hip width to other measures. Things things are more fingerprint-ish like that.

          It’s a lot like… how facial recog looks at distances between your pupils. Or the exact position of your cheekbones and structure of the face. Making it hard to fool in some ways.

          It can all be fooled to a degree. Anyway it’s all probabilities. Maybe it works 95% and fails 5% or w/e, but that’s “good enough” for advertizers and data brokers.

          It’s all just an exhausting uphill battle :(

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      And there’s an app called “nearby glasses” that’ll notify us when/where anyone nearby has these meta glasses active.

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        See that’s a good use. I’m thinking of getting a “dashcam” style gopro or other camera9 for my bike (I might be able to get a free low end one through a law firm I consult with from time to time. I like free and at 15mph you aren’t that blurry. Or maybe you are but for free I can try it and use it elsewhere like a chump if it sucks)
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      Accessibility: live captions & transcripts. Sharing whatever you see in high stakes situations, eg, police interactions. Seems pretty obvious.

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      When google glass first debuted, I was thinking how much easier my job could be if I could have the faces of the people authorized to enter in that device to make admission easier (there were over 300 faces to remember that didn’t have to use their issued ID due to position), as in, when a person approaches if they were in my “PRIVATE ON DEVICE” database their access card would display on my screen. Never got one, thankfully. This new tech would be great for this except I doubt that there would be an offline mode, so I see no use case for this unless you want to assist in the tracking of people for Meta.

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      There’s a couple of people on SM I follow who use them.

      There’s a street photographer called Bleg who always explains to people that he is using them to record the interaction.

      Another is a guy that feeds several cat colonies on his mail route (first class whiskers) so he can use both hands to stroke and feed the cats.

      Another is a guy called AsamaPOV that visits small family run restaurants in Japan and like the first guy, always explains and asks permission.

      They’re examples of nice people but the scope for abuse is so wide

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        How do they ask permission without filming them first though? With such a device, I’d assume it is always recording and sending data to Meta servers.

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    A dude wore these to a club I was at. Not easy to notice unless you’re looking for them. He was creeping on people showing skin and was a known stalker for one of the dancers in particular.

    Fortunately he got kicked out unceremoniously.

    asshole perverts will always find ways to ruin things for everyone else, but these glasses just make it way too easy.

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    Just need to associate ray bans with creeps moving forward. If they are too far away to tell, just assume it’s a fucking weirdo in Meta glasses. Forever associate the brand with creepy weirdos, and maybe they’ll rethink their strategy.

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    3 months ago

    “Pervert Glasses” = AI glasses

    (For doomscrollers who don’t read the articles)

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      well considering that most AI is used to create child porn (looks directly at Grok)… pervert glasses seems like a very good description of these “glasses”.