This appears to be part of the “Parents Decide Act” announced earlier in April by Gottheimer, as just one step in the process. So expect a lot more to come. Some bullet point plans from it:
- Require operating system developers like Apple and Google to verify users’ ages when setting up a new device, rather than relying on self-reported ages.
- Allow parents to set age-appropriate content controls from the start, including limiting access to social media, apps, and AI platforms.
- Ensure that age and parental settings securely flow to apps and AI platforms, so content is tailored appropriately for children.
- Prevent children from accessing harmful or explicit content - including inappropriate AI chatbot interactions - by creating a consistent, trusted standard across platforms.Currently, the bill is only in the introductory stage so it hasn’t yet passed and become law, so if this is important to you in the US you may want to speak to your representatives.
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I am sorry, but isn’t it 99% not about “children protection” but general surveillance for everyone wrapped up in a “pretty” package that plays, again, on fears as the parenting and unforeseen future backed up with the “time-saving” features for those who are in a hurry within the same system?
Downvote because your post is mostly tribalism. It’s “us users” vs “them evil state who want to surveil us”.
Have you actually spent time considering whether age verification is beneficial? Whether parents think that their children spend too much time online, or whether the teenagers think that themselves? Have you taken their input and concerns serious?
Many people i know irl are saying that children should spent less time online and maybe only in cleaner parts of the internet, which excludes a lot of sites. and they’re not saying that because they want to surveil everyone, but because they want to live a simple, unworried life that keeps them away from danger.
I think headbashing won’t bring us anywhere, we need to listen to people’s concerns and take them seriously, and respond with clever wits and thorough analysis.
oh and before any of you say “well, parents already have the ability to limit what children can do on their smartphones”. well, i did a lot of surveys about who knows these abilities, and who uses them, including here on lemmy, and the result is pretty bleak. 99.9% of people don’t know any parental controls, and many believe that there are no effective parental controls today. if you think otherwise, please provide examples.
if you think for one second that anything requiring digital ID or age verification in the united states under this current fascist regime will be anything but a detriment to the american people who are already being stolen from their homes, beaten, tortured, raped, killed, and shipped off to foreign countries, separating children from their families, they are raping children in ICE detention facilities so commonly that there is a noticeable rise in underage pregnancy inside these facilities. many of which go missing after the fact.
this streamlines child abduction for ICE agents and therefore streamlines child sex trafficking in the united states as a side effect of increased surveillance over the entire united states population.
quit being naive.
if parents really cared about their children online, they would either get them a dumb phone or even simply google how to install parental controls on their cellphones, routers, desktops, laptops, pads, etc.
having the state (especially this state) being responsible for parenting your children will leave them exposed to to fascism, fascistic ideals, and becoming victims themselves of trafficking and abuse by authority.
your entire post reads like someone who is terribly, terribly misinformed on the dangers and implications of this kind of state/federal level of control over the internet. and what that means not only for the children, but also whistle blowers, protestors, resistance members, unions, and average every day people like you who think that following the rules will keep you and your loved ones safe from harm.
being a good well natured person in the united states is quite literally punishable by death in the eyes of the law. keeping your head down and out of the way, following the rules, its as good as being complicit in fascism itself.
this law is fascist. end. of. story.
sorry you were mislead by billions of dollars worth of propaganda that makes it seem like a good idea.
Have you actually spent time considering whether age verification is beneficial?
Yes, and it’s not.
Whether parents think that their children spend too much time online, or whether the teenagers think that themselves?
That has no bearing on whether or not every single website, advertising service , and application needs access to my PII.
Have you taken their input and concerns serious?
Yes, but if they aren’t willing to take responsibility for themselves or their children, then I don’t really give those concerns much weight.
If ‘99.9% of people don’t know any parental controls, and many believe that there are no effective parental controls today’ is true then adding Government surveillance to the problem doesn’t help especially when children are much more tech savvy than your average poli and will find a workaround in about a week. You are also assuming that the parental controls they implement are going to be easy to navigate. I think it would be far easier to create new laws that make social media liable for harmful or explicit content they allow on their platforms.
I can’t wait to verify my age to all 14 operating systems in my car. My Traeger grill has an OS. So does my router. Does a bare metal super loop count as an OS? It did in my undergrad operating systems class. Do I need to verify the pilot’s age for all of the operating systems in an F35? Who supplies the ID for the OS in an ATM?
The people that push these laws must be shoved into a solitary confinement for the rest of their lives.
Fuck you, Peter.
“Patents decide” is a very thin veil around the personal data grab this really is. If parents so decide, they are perfectly capable to set up the correct ages for their children without handing any sensitive data over to bog tech. And if they decide to not care about age restrictions, they could still use their personal info to verify as adults on their children’s devices. This bill only benefits those, who can collect even more data then
If it’s called “parents decide” why they implement it as “government and corps decide”? 🤔
So, more people learning to compile kernels eh?
I dunno… Bullet points are pretty LLMy.
I am sorry, but I never use LLM for my words, and I try omitting LLM-generated/formatted articles myself when noticed, since I do also have heartache whenever I see anything such.
Meanwhile, it’s also painful to constantly recently receive these “you act like AI”, “you are a bot”, “you use AI/LLM” etc. just because I’ve been trying to format my messages since at least 2010 keeping references with human finite priceless time invested into…
These recent comments devalue, defame, and basically disrespect you a human who just tries to keep it organized for others.It’s a dear sorrow since nowadays your attempts to stay accountable are getting ridiculed and devalued to void.
I am sorry… for my formatting that cause you any trouble… but what can I do? The world won’t care, but some do still try formatting their words in public at least somehow, without these “lol”, “kek”… and some hopefully proper punctuation.
No to mention:
- LLM-looking “em-dashes” I removed from the source (e.g. origin’s “…explicit content — including inappropriate…”);
- Escaped list prefixes (i.e.\-instead of-) so to not cause Markdown render it with huge spaces between list items;
- Created a web-archived version and noted in the source reference line between “[]”, just in case.Yet, who cares, right? You likely didn’t even notice.
These comments… make you feel empty, regretful, and sometimes cause a headache I got when I read your comment with 2 other people calling me a bot today. Such an awesome time to live, indeed.
Related:
- https://lemmy.world/comment/21429322 (Nor will use any LLM in my work, art, or research… I prefer people, communication, discoveries, effort, creativity, and human art…)
- https://lemmy.world/post/45344022 (“Unpolished human websites” ~ I want to read your words, your mistakes, your opinions, what’s on your mind…)Waaaaht.
That text up there was copied verbatim from the MPs website.
sorry you didn’t see the humor with which i meant my comment. withdrawn.
Unless the parents decide they want to preserve their privacy of course. What about non-parents? Why do parents get to decide for us?
“parents” ≈ “adults”. The whole “think of the children” argument is a red herring anyways, but if you see how they are using it and which specific metaphorical levers of information control they are pulling, you can make more informed choices. At least I think that’s the point of the article.
Well, as an adult I don’t want this shit in my OS at all. It serves no purpose for me other than to compromise my privacy. This legislation doesn’t leave that as an option.
Ah yes, another bill named after something it doesn’t actually do, for people who can’t actually be bothered or are unable to understand technology in order to restrict their kid(s) access anyway.
Another lie at the altar of protecting children. They could give a fucking rip about kids, dimmest timeline ever.
Reddit User Uncovers Who Is Behind Meta’s $2B Lobbying for Invasive Age Verification Tech
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/reddit-user-uncovers-behind-meta-154717384.html
This is stupid to do this at the OS level. Where are the small government conservatives demanding the private market meet this need? (They are liars, fools, and scumbags who don’t sincerely believe what they say)
They should just name is “save all the children and you are bad person if you don’t support this” act
Thank GOD! FINALLY I’ll get a Chance to give the Epstein Class my CHILDS personal Information!
Hate it, but I honestly think this will pass. Most people won’t even notice as Windows already requires an email, so this will probably just add some sort of take a picture of your face thing. The concerning issue is when this leads websites to be able to request the identity of users. Huge chunks of the internet will basically die for anyone who cares about privacy. Linux users can ignore a lot of this, but linux will remain in the minority on all devices, and when most websites plus government websites start using it to access papers and such things… yeah then even linux users will have to figure out a work around maybe scrapers or something… It’s dystopian.
