Who said anything about being the same? Israel is the worst offender in the world.
China is planning for an invasion of Taiwan, so they’re certainly putting together a backup plan in case Taiwan doesn’t agree to become part of China. Doesn’t seem like they’d need that sort of thing if they were being truly peaceful.
It’s also things like your analysis being “flies a plane near a country” that is a sign you aren’t being adequately critical of china and I question your seriousness and reasons.
I mean, seriously, look at this map and tell me how you consider this “peaceful”:
China is planning for an invasion of Taiwan, so they’re certainly putting together a backup plan
Yes, a backup plan for a potential case of Taiwan being used as a static US aircraft carrier against it in a war. You remember that they’re still at war, right? No peace treaty was ever signed between the KMT and the CPC.
Look at your own source:
Shortly after U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s arrival in Taipei, China announced plans to hold live-fire drills
It’s almost as if the drills are a response to something other than just Taipei not yet being willing to re-unify.
I also note that the bright red symbols on the mark connote a sense of urgency and yet this is from 2022. Obviously the invasion must be happening any day now…
The map also references other drills from 1995-1996 which I note are denoted as “Third Taiwan Strait Crisis”… If they were at 3 crises by 1996, I can’t imagine how many crises we’ve had since, considering liberals have been unable to shut the fuck up about this for decades.
Right. Reactionary. That must be why china is requiring that all civilian ferries are capable of RORO of tank sized vehicles and why they’re building massive landing barges capable of handling landing on Taiwan’s rocky coasts.
Taiwan has every right to be concerned with an invasion because it’s what china keeps saying.
So, no, you don’t get to wave your propaganda wand and make a very real issue go away.
“I’m not being reactionary!! They have a marine corps!! And invasion plans for the region held by the enemy resistance forces. They’ve said that they’re committed to peaceful reunification and haven’t attempted any invasions for decades despite many opportunities, but that’s all just been an act, they’re gonna invade aaaany day now!”
Some stupid people disagreed with you even when presented with evidence of Russia already having invaded Ukraine as recently as 2014. I am not those people. I am just looking at all of the history and propaganda on all sides with an understanding of international relations and I am seeing a very peaceful process considering this has been a civil war for decades.
I mean, they literally are planning for an invasion. Whether they will is up for debate, but they’re definitely designing their naval fleet for it and performing exercises simulationing an invasion.
That isn’t even true. Imperialism is often spread through soft power. I thought that was the entire point you were making, that China was exerting soft power in an imperialist manner… if China invades Taiwan, I will be right there with you, calling it out, but history has shown that the CPC is quite restrained, and I see no reason for them to change their approach.
Maybe ALL imperialism is bad.*
Well yeah obviously, no maybes about that. I am not supporting Chinese imperialism in any way. My point is that the US imperialism is unbelievably bad and much worse, and yet people here just can’t accept that very reasonable critique without getting bent out of shape accusing me of all kinds of shit, including that I am a tankie. Y’all need to recognize the mainstream narrative is told to you by the exact same media that have been lying to us all along to push US imperialism. The media is owned by the ruling class. Please stop being so short sighted.
Israel: does a genocide
China: flies a plane near a country they’ve been at war with for over 70 years
Liberals: “hmm yes these seem about the same to me”
Who said anything about being the same? Israel is the worst offender in the world.
China is planning for an invasion of Taiwan, so they’re certainly putting together a backup plan in case Taiwan doesn’t agree to become part of China. Doesn’t seem like they’d need that sort of thing if they were being truly peaceful.
It’s also things like your analysis being “flies a plane near a country” that is a sign you aren’t being adequately critical of china and I question your seriousness and reasons.
I mean, seriously, look at this map and tell me how you consider this “peaceful”:
Yes, a backup plan for a potential case of Taiwan being used as a static US aircraft carrier against it in a war. You remember that they’re still at war, right? No peace treaty was ever signed between the KMT and the CPC.
Look at your own source:
It’s almost as if the drills are a response to something other than just Taipei not yet being willing to re-unify.
I also note that the bright red symbols on the mark connote a sense of urgency and yet this is from 2022. Obviously the invasion must be happening any day now…
The map also references other drills from 1995-1996 which I note are denoted as “Third Taiwan Strait Crisis”… If they were at 3 crises by 1996, I can’t imagine how many crises we’ve had since, considering liberals have been unable to shut the fuck up about this for decades.
Please, calm down, you are being reactionary.
Right. Reactionary. That must be why china is requiring that all civilian ferries are capable of RORO of tank sized vehicles and why they’re building massive landing barges capable of handling landing on Taiwan’s rocky coasts.
Taiwan has every right to be concerned with an invasion because it’s what china keeps saying.
So, no, you don’t get to wave your propaganda wand and make a very real issue go away.
“I’m not being reactionary!! They have a marine corps!! And invasion plans for the region held by the enemy resistance forces. They’ve said that they’re committed to peaceful reunification and haven’t attempted any invasions for decades despite many opportunities, but that’s all just been an act, they’re gonna invade aaaany day now!”
You remind me of a Russian propagandist right before one of their invasions of Ukraine.
Some stupid people disagreed with you even when presented with evidence of Russia already having invaded Ukraine as recently as 2014. I am not those people. I am just looking at all of the history and propaganda on all sides with an understanding of international relations and I am seeing a very peaceful process considering this has been a civil war for decades.
Let’s both hope it never happens then. I’d rather be your friend than adversary.
Yeah, they’ve been planning to invade next week for decades now…
I mean, they literally are planning for an invasion. Whether they will is up for debate, but they’re definitely designing their naval fleet for it and performing exercises simulationing an invasion.
Maybe ALL imperialism is bad.*
Fucking first worlders, they don’t seem to understand that countries want to be left alone seemingly.
edt: I said the wrong word.
That isn’t even true. Imperialism is often spread through soft power. I thought that was the entire point you were making, that China was exerting soft power in an imperialist manner… if China invades Taiwan, I will be right there with you, calling it out, but history has shown that the CPC is quite restrained, and I see no reason for them to change their approach.
Well yeah obviously, no maybes about that. I am not supporting Chinese imperialism in any way. My point is that the US imperialism is unbelievably bad and much worse, and yet people here just can’t accept that very reasonable critique without getting bent out of shape accusing me of all kinds of shit, including that I am a tankie. Y’all need to recognize the mainstream narrative is told to you by the exact same media that have been lying to us all along to push US imperialism. The media is owned by the ruling class. Please stop being so short sighted.