• elfpie@lemmy.eco.br
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    15 days ago

    If I’m correct, roads were for everyone, then they decided to make it only for cars and the rest has to fight to have small strips dedicated for them because they supposedly get in the way.

    And about the cyclists. They might be assholes, or you might be passing too close or too fast.

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      15 days ago

      Or roads are too narrow for the guy who can’t even hit half the speed limit to be safely passed and is now blocking all traffic…

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      15 days ago

      Different classes of vehicle that have significantly different speed capabilities should have separate lanes. Bikes, tractors, horse-drawn buggies; it’s a safety hazard to force them to share a lane with automobiles.

      I try to minimize the amount of time I’m in the wrong lane of traffic. If a car comes around the next corner while I’m passing, the cyclist is gonna be a lot more upset when I have to suddenly swerve back into the right lane. So I pass as quickly as possible. If he wants me to crawl past only doing a couple mph faster than he’s doing, well, that’s not gonna happen.

      Also, if my car doesn’t accelerate very fast, I need to get up to speed in order to pass. It’s not just a quick little blip when I’m starting from 15 or 20 mph. So if it makes him nervous when my engine revs, maybe he shouldn’t be riding a bike in traffic?

      I can go slower if I stay in the correct lane, but that gives the bike less space. I can give the bike more space by going into the other lane, but then I’ll have to go faster. Pick your poison. I’d be a jerk if I passed both close and fast. But either close or fast is a practical necessity, and if you get upset that I didn’t do neither then you’re the jerk.

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        12 days ago

        Just to clarify. You go slower or you stay away. Your don’t have to do both. The ideia is to be far enough that the bike toppling to the side doesn’t result in a cyclist under your car, or that hitting the cyclist is at a relative low speed.

        And I honestly see more drivers overreacting to things that would just dent or scratch their cars than cyclists losing control when they have their lives endangered.

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        14 days ago

        Lmao, wtf dude. You pass a bicycle at a place where you can’t see the road ahead of you, and when a CSR comes your response is to run the bicycle over? You shouldnt have a drivers license. You are a danger to those around you.

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          14 days ago

          No, you have to severely distort what I said to arrive at that conclusion. I said I don’t do those things.

          I depicted the various possible scenarios to explain why bike lanes are a good thing. If your solution is to just take away people’s licenses because they passed a bike on the road just so you don’t have to build bike lanes, then you might want to do some introspecting because you’re part of the problem.

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            14 days ago

            You literally said you would have to swerve into a bike if there was a car coming when you were passing at a curve bruh, there’s no scenario where you should be passing at that time period. Its a dumbass argument.

            The taking licenses away isn’t because you passed someone, its because your idea of a valid response to you fucking up in this hypothetical scenario is to murder someone.