What sickens me is I know there aren’t any aliens. I mean, there might be aliens somewhere out there in the universe, but there is no trace whatsoever of any of the many, many hallmarks that interstellar travel and planetary visitation would leave in our solar system. None. There are no aliens. But so many people don’t know this, and they want aliens to be real as badly as I do, and they’re gonna fall for this shit.
Sure! At this point in our scientific knowledge, we have a pretty solid grasp of the various avenues by which travelers might get here. This includes the slow but realistic ways, the theoretically possible ways, and the ways that would be tantamount to magical as far as physics is concerned. If there’s an unusual EM burst within many light years of here, let alone within the solar system, we detect it. If it happened in the past, we have a very good idea of what traces it would have left in the proxy data of the solar system. We can even detect gravitational waves now, again even at great distances. If something in the solar system moves across our view of the other planets or distant stars, someone notices. These are all different signs that interstellar drives might leave, and we got nothing there.
I could go on to the signs of planetary visitation that we also have none of, but frankly I don’t believe in teleportation, let alone at interstellar distances, so I assume any aliens on Earth had to get here some less magical way. And since there’s no sign of that, it’s a moot point.
Would the average person know this? I’m not disagreeing with you. I’m just wondering since everything is so censored on the internet nowadays and papers have to go through filter after filter. I’m just huffing copium here but I’d like to think there’s something happening out there but the average person like you and I just don’t know. It’s not like we can see it for our selves.
The average person can access telescopes powerful enough to observe objects transiting across planets or stars, or radio telescopes that detect EM signals. As for the gravitational wave detectors, while they aren’t exactly open to everyone, the kind of drive signature they’d detect is at this point completely theoretical. The closest thing to a feasible warp drive design that we’ve come up with still requires a material with negative mass to build. We have no idea how to get/make that, or if it’s even possible for it to exist. There’s pretty strong theory to suggest that it can’t.
You don’t have to trust authorities to tell you whether or not aliens have come to Earth. It’s just the unfortunate truth that the more things you take note of and consider, the less likely it seems.
Well, warp drives might not be on the only thing available. Solar sails? Generational or cryogenic ships? Heck, even hitching a ride on an asteroid. Or something even beyond our comprehension. Considering the drive signature is theoretical, what would we even look for? The ‘wow’ signal was a radio signature but from where? Could be a natural phenomenon, but then again, it could be artificial. There’s so much possibilities out there.
Solar Sails, Generational and Cryogenic Ships: We’d be able to see the craft slowly approaching us. Covering it up would be increasingly impossible as it approaches us because as the comrade from before said, telescopes are readily available technology. Even if there was a coverup of an international scale that had the support of every single institution, it would require dealing with thousands of amateur astronomers and utterly subverting scientific peer-review.
Wow: The Signal has never been repeated. It could genuinely be aliens who sent it by accident. Other more sensitive radio telescopes didn’t detect it though. The discoverer believes that while it isn’t impossible that the signal is extraterrestrial in origin it could also be some nonsense done on Earth. The signal band is protected but it could be interference from a close-by frequency or someone with a powerful transmitter making the funniest pirate radio broadcast ever.
Asteroid: If they were trying to communicate with their folks back home, there’s a good chance we’d pick it up. Furthermore, maintaining a livable space station on an asteroid will generate waste heat and such. Our astronomers would probably notice such an anomaly.
Possibilities aren’t plausibilities. Like, I don’t know if you know what “not a single thing ever, that can’t be better explained than to say it was aliens” means. I’m not going to trust Donald Trump to deliver on this one, considering the facts.
What sickens me is I know there aren’t any aliens. I mean, there might be aliens somewhere out there in the universe, but there is no trace whatsoever of any of the many, many hallmarks that interstellar travel and planetary visitation would leave in our solar system. None. There are no aliens. But so many people don’t know this, and they want aliens to be real as badly as I do, and they’re gonna fall for this shit.
As one of the many, you mind educating me on those hallmarks?
I’m curious too!
I guess no leftover orbiting stuff for starters?
Sure! At this point in our scientific knowledge, we have a pretty solid grasp of the various avenues by which travelers might get here. This includes the slow but realistic ways, the theoretically possible ways, and the ways that would be tantamount to magical as far as physics is concerned. If there’s an unusual EM burst within many light years of here, let alone within the solar system, we detect it. If it happened in the past, we have a very good idea of what traces it would have left in the proxy data of the solar system. We can even detect gravitational waves now, again even at great distances. If something in the solar system moves across our view of the other planets or distant stars, someone notices. These are all different signs that interstellar drives might leave, and we got nothing there.
I could go on to the signs of planetary visitation that we also have none of, but frankly I don’t believe in teleportation, let alone at interstellar distances, so I assume any aliens on Earth had to get here some less magical way. And since there’s no sign of that, it’s a moot point.
Would the average person know this? I’m not disagreeing with you. I’m just wondering since everything is so censored on the internet nowadays and papers have to go through filter after filter. I’m just huffing copium here but I’d like to think there’s something happening out there but the average person like you and I just don’t know. It’s not like we can see it for our selves.
The average person can access telescopes powerful enough to observe objects transiting across planets or stars, or radio telescopes that detect EM signals. As for the gravitational wave detectors, while they aren’t exactly open to everyone, the kind of drive signature they’d detect is at this point completely theoretical. The closest thing to a feasible warp drive design that we’ve come up with still requires a material with negative mass to build. We have no idea how to get/make that, or if it’s even possible for it to exist. There’s pretty strong theory to suggest that it can’t.
You don’t have to trust authorities to tell you whether or not aliens have come to Earth. It’s just the unfortunate truth that the more things you take note of and consider, the less likely it seems.
Well, warp drives might not be on the only thing available. Solar sails? Generational or cryogenic ships? Heck, even hitching a ride on an asteroid. Or something even beyond our comprehension. Considering the drive signature is theoretical, what would we even look for? The ‘wow’ signal was a radio signature but from where? Could be a natural phenomenon, but then again, it could be artificial. There’s so much possibilities out there.
Solar Sails, Generational and Cryogenic Ships: We’d be able to see the craft slowly approaching us. Covering it up would be increasingly impossible as it approaches us because as the comrade from before said, telescopes are readily available technology. Even if there was a coverup of an international scale that had the support of every single institution, it would require dealing with thousands of amateur astronomers and utterly subverting scientific peer-review.
Wow: The Signal has never been repeated. It could genuinely be aliens who sent it by accident. Other more sensitive radio telescopes didn’t detect it though. The discoverer believes that while it isn’t impossible that the signal is extraterrestrial in origin it could also be some nonsense done on Earth. The signal band is protected but it could be interference from a close-by frequency or someone with a powerful transmitter making the funniest pirate radio broadcast ever.
Asteroid: If they were trying to communicate with their folks back home, there’s a good chance we’d pick it up. Furthermore, maintaining a livable space station on an asteroid will generate waste heat and such. Our astronomers would probably notice such an anomaly.
Possibilities aren’t plausibilities. Like, I don’t know if you know what “not a single thing ever, that can’t be better explained than to say it was aliens” means. I’m not going to trust Donald Trump to deliver on this one, considering the facts.