Yes I know the cliche saying of “every president is war criminal” blah blah blah. But last president atleast were attacked or provoked by recognized threat. Trump has -

  • Tried to coup the US government over election results
  • Sent ICE agents into cities to harass the public
  • Defended ICE killing civilians by labeling victims as “domestic terrorist”
  • Bombed Nigeria on Christmas 2025 (it’s unknown the casualty count), Nigeria did not attack us
  • Illegally invaded Venezuela and kidnapped their leader and his wife, Venezuela did not attack us
  • Is currently starving the country of Cuba with no food, electricity or aid, Cuba did not attack us
  • Is spreading false information about White Genocide in South Africa
  • Killed Iranian Generals in his first term after tearing up Obama’s Iran Peace Deal
  • Bombed a school of little girls in Iran
  • Started a war with Iran, killing their leader, Iran did not attack us
  • Wants to occupy and takeover Greenland, Greenland did not attack us or ask for this
  • Inplements unprofessional and nonsensical tariffs on the Global economy

And so much more. Why dosent social media, traditional media, reddit, lemmy, democrats, ANYBODY ever call this gu ya terrorist. No other president has caused this much global terror in the modern era.

  • tooks@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    When did we say he wasn’t? Just because his camp isn’t speaking the obvious doesn’t mean it isn’t abundantly true. I’ll never understand how human shit piles seem to live forever, while death creeps up on the few remaining decent people in the world. Guy I work with who would literally go out of his way to help ANYONE with ANYTHING. Even helped me swap my car’s alternator in the work parking lot one afternoon (we work in IT). Lived with cancer for 9 years, died last month at 59. Meanwhile, the Pedo Party 70+ crowd dismantles the world, laughing all the way to the bank, raping kids.

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      6 days ago

      I’ve always been anti-fascist. Now, according to President Lumpy DicknBalls, I’m a terrorist because I’m not a fascist.

      Unpopular opinion (or fuck, maybe popular), permanent reassignment of the term “retard” to MAGA republicans. Get on it Marian-Webster.

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    Because the US/west gets to decide who the terrorist is? I mean the US can invade a country to protect against communism, but Palestinians protecting themselves* (yes, I agree the asterisk is doing some heavy lifting) are terrorists. So on and so forth.

    As someone from East, being politically active and living as an expat in a western country, I learnt this fact/double standards the hard way?

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    9 days ago

    Why dosent social media, traditional media, reddit, lemmy, democrats, ANYBODY ever call this gu ya terrorist.

    We actually do all the time. He’s the president of the most powerful and wealthy nation on earth. Most presidents cannot contradict him even though they all think he is an idiot.

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    But last president atleast were attacked or provoked by recognized threat

    Not to defend Trump but that’s not true. US has been starting illegal wars of aggression for it’s entire existence.

    The Iraq war was “justified” largely for the same reason the Iran war is being.

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    9 days ago

    you would be surprised about how little the average person cares about whether the president is a huge asshole. half the population is fed fox news, which means they’ll get whatever narrative is handy to the rich. the other half is having a mental meltdown on social media which honestly doesn’t help anyone. then there’s the whole thing that i feel like america is just a fundamentally broken and sick society with like 50 problems (each of which feels like it should be lethal) and trump is yet another one of those.

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    Imagine this scenario: you have a group of friends. You’re not equally close with all of them but you all hang out together and do stuff together and you all get along fine in general. You help each other out with tools and food, you lend each other your cars, you attend each other’s parties, you defend each other against other people who are not part of your group, you might even date each other or each other’s siblings. It’s not always sunshine and roses but you’re generally able to solve most issues that arise by working together. Any differences in opinion can usually be resolved or worked around.

    And then one of you starts acting out. They seem to go through some really tough shit. Maybe something happened in their private life that they’re not willing to share. Maybe there’s some serious medical stuff going on. They yell at everybody, antagonise everybody, don’t return the tools they borrow, don’t contribute anything to the biweekly barbecue, and demand that everybody come around every Friday and do work around their house, for free. Because of all the things they did for everybody else in the past or something.

    You wouldn’t instantly kick them out of the group, would you? You’d try to reason with them, try to find out what changed, try to help with whatever issue they seem to have, maybe you’d try to sit it out and hope they get better on their own. You’ve been together in this group of friends for a long time and all of you have generally always benefitted from it. Also, you’re still using their streaming account and you’re only halfway through Last of Stranger Thrones.

    It’s going to take a while until the people in your friend group, one by one, reach their limit and are ready to tell the person who’s making everybody miserable to fuck off. They’re not going to do it on their own either, they’ll be waiting for everybody else to signal their readiness, because they’re afraid of being singled out of the group. You can only hope that by the time everybody is ready, your houses and cars and families are still intact.

    It’s infinitely more complicated on an international scale.

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      Your scenario suggests that the friend ‘just started’ to act out, but this breaks the analogy because the US has been doing war crimes for decades.

      This isn’t a friend that just started acting out, it’s a friend that has a history of talking behind your back, stealing your stuff, crashing your car, sleeping with your SO, killing your pet, and offering you a cash bribe in return.

      Why is this person still your friend? Why didn’t people reach their limit when the friend killed a million innocent Iraqis?

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    9 days ago

    I mean, is he not? The rest of the world is just scared he’ll nuke something if they push back in any real way.

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    9 days ago

    He’s not a terrorist, doesnt match the definition. You may notice a lot of comparisons to hitler though. Trump is a better match for a despot

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      doesnt match the definition

      oh really? what definition are you working with? mine is “using violence against civilian population in order to achieve your political goals”. for example, if someone threatens to bomb civilian infrastructure of a country if the government doesn’t do what he wants…

      he is as much of a terrorist as putin or netanyahu

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        Yes, that term usually denotes a person or group not in power.

        Google says

        A person, group, or organization that uses violent action, or the threat of violent action, to further political goals; frequently in an attempt to coerce either a more powerful opponent, (such as a citizen or group targeting a government), or conversely, a weaker opponent, (such as a government, or even an internal citizen or group, being targeted by a larger government).

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          8 days ago

          your own quote literally disproves what you said before it

          (such as a government, or even an internal citizen or group, being targeted by a larger government).

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            8 days ago

            So, I see, you’re painting Trump and Putin as the underdog. Everyone pushing them around

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              no, i am painting trump and putin as a terrorists targeting civilians. and i am explaining to you that your own quote allows for a situation where the terrorist in not “underdog vs government”, but it is actually the government.

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                Or you could read all the way to the end of your quote, and try basic reading comprehension

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                  it is YOUR quote and it contradicts what you are trying to say. try basic reading comprehension. read multiple times. ask nearby adult for a help, if needed.

                  Google says

                  also, google doesn’t say anything, google provides collection of links, more or less trustworthy, and these sources “say” something and can be cited.

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    A terrorist is someone who uses violence to change government policy, if you are the government then by definition you can’t be a domestic terrorist.

    The correct charge is treason, but I imagine getting a conviction for that would be difficult? I’m not familiar with the American legal system. The last time England charged a head of state with treason it was because he started two civil wars.

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          The problem with that is that he hasn’t been convicted of any of the things mentioned there. People are innocent until proven guilty, so it can’t be the case that someone can be deemed to have done these things if they haven’t been convicted.

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    the one controlling trump is a greater threat but he funds enough propaganda and right wing governments to insulate himself. trump is a mere tool.