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I hate organized religion with a passion. You bet your ass I was “catholic” when my grandfather passed and I was helping my grandmother with the funeral though. Im an atheist, not an asshole. I’m sure if their imaginary friend actually exists they can forgive me for pretending to believe to console my grieving grandmother
This is me when a mainline christian says there’s another angel in heaven. Umm, ackchyually… Angels are non-corporeal creatures, having spirit but not bodies, and humans are corporeal creatures having both spirit and body. A human becoming an angel (a completely different species) is akin to a human becoming a lizard, or vice versa.
Thank you for this gem
I love how this meme could be interpreted as “I’m glad to be burried next to my husband”
This post is like a litmus test for separating pretentious reddit atheists from people who can actually take a joke, bravo
Atheist?
We call ourselves antitheist.
(Yes, I’ll talk about the ills of religion and why it should be abolished. No, I’m not doing it at grandmas deathbed.)
There isn’t anything wrong with having a community of people who share your beliefs and values and holding ceremonies and celebrations with them. The problem is when you try to force your religion on everybody else.
The problem is when you try to force your religion on everybody else.
Which religion does by existing. Everyone gets to vote. And as long a religions exist, some will do so based on things that are not real.
Additionally, respecting different ways of life, and being religious, are mutually exclusive concepts.
Someone that can genuinely think the way I live my life leads to eternal damnation, and also respect my right to choose, is not a good person. To merely treat others decently, the religious must reconcile internal moral beliefs in ways no-one should have to.
Non-secular thinking is not compatible with a secular utopia on earth. And I’m not talking about horoscopes. But religion, which by definition, is a set of rules for how society should work and how people should live. Often applied on the pain of death, or worse.
Pushing those rules on non-conformers is a intrinsic systemic component. Religion without it is not religion. It’s just a nice idea, which subscribers get to hold dear while somehow accepting that anyone who doesn’t must inevitably rot in hell, and they have to be ok with that.
So you’ve made up a very narrow and arbitrary definition of “religion” which sounds very much like evangelical Christianity.
All religions, consist of rules for how things should be.
That is not compatible with live and let live. That I reference the worst of them does not make the lesser ones innocent. Just lesser. Half bad is still bad. So is a quarter. Or any fraction.
Religion is informal law, which unlike actual law, is not up for a vote. And with which the inconsistency of interpretation, is a feature, not a bug.
And believers do get to vote, which can make their laws, our laws.
And trusting them to “live and let live” which in their frame of reference might doom others to some purgatory or other, isn’t as valid an option as you make out.
Reddit atheists were like the gamergate of secularism.
Why is that a picture of a real man, and not a man made of straw?
Very few people trying to un-convert you on your deathbed, while the plenty of people trying to convert you to a religion… because in many cases, that’s literally their belief that you can be “saved.”
But arguing with a straw man meme is kinda pointless- especially on Lemmy, where most of you already know that, lol.
And its like ‘grandma even if I’m wrong and you’re right, you know that’s never gonna happen. Grandpa was a good person.’
Well yeah, but she won’t care then either.
This is truly the behavior to expect from theists. You’re lying there waiting for death and some wannabe preacher tells you that it’s not too late to join their cult
What, that she says she gets to go be with g-pa? Let her have her moment. OP is making this situation way more complicated than it needs to be.
I was at a funeral where the preacher was doing that! “If she were here now, she would tell you to make sure that you get your life right with Jesus.” Um, no, she fucking wouldn’t! Her fiance was sitting in front of me, and I thought I could see smoke coming out of his ears.
It was her family’s funeral, though, and apparently they were Christians.
this gives “I talked to a JW once” energy
Nah I grew up in fundamentalist circles
dam, rough.
Protestant indoctrination is why most people leave Christianity. Hope you find Christ, Frater
Protestant indoctrination
apparently you’re not disgusted by the long history of child rape in the catholic church? or do you actively help the coverup?
Protestants lolol
I hope you wise up and find Ganesh someday
Remover of obstacles, patron of arts and sciences, lord of letters and learning, and chicks dig a prehensile nose. There’s definitely worse choices if you’re shopping for deities.
My grandmother told me she was ready to go to heaven and I told her I loved her.
Fuck off c-----ian.
I feel like Reddit atheists are far too commonly given the spotlight, and intentionally so by theocratic fascists.
There are countless genuinely terrible things about organized religion and its role and influence in society. This conversation absolutely needs to be had. Nobody serious is going to grieving or dying people to shit on their coping skills using religion.
Well, the US certainly needs to have a discussion about organized Christianity. That’s the only religion I ever see getting up in my business.
Hell Yeaaah!! On my Reddit atheist daily planner I have this scheduled for 2 pm
